From vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu  Fri Oct  1 02:28:18 2010
From: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu (Volkan Ozguz)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:28:18 +0300
Subject: [labnetwork] PVC piping
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Dear Jeff
Thanks for the reply. You are right. The material proposed to us is
HarvellXT. I will provide a ratioed price analysis as soon as it becomes
available. I would like to place a disclaimer here. Some materials and
services readily available at the US are surprisingly difficult to get here.
I can find the most sophisticated LED lighting panels for example. But DI
water piping was an "adventure" . Therefore the prices may not reflect the
situation in USA.

Volkan


-- 
Volkan ?zg?z
Sabanc? University
Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
Office: 0 216 483 9880
Fax: 0 216 483 9550
Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.e <vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu>

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kuhn, Jeffrey G <kuhn1 at purdue.edu> wrote:

>  My initial concern was with organic compounds (TOC) leaching from the PVC
> pipe and cement, but it appears this new material has low extractables. The
> other concern I have is with the smoothness of the pipe joints. Any crevices
> or beads in the joint would invite bacteria growth.
>
>
>
> I did not dig too deeply into the specifications, but the following link
> from one supplier may be of some use:
>
>
>
> http://www.harvellxt.com/
>
>
>
> It appears there is training required to acquire the skill set needed to
> properly use the system, not unlike with PVDF fusion.
>
>
>
> I?d also be curious to see the cost difference between the two systems.
>
>
>
> Jeff Kuhn
>
> Facility Engineer
>
> Birck Nanotechnology Center
>
> Purdue University
>
> 1205 W. State St.
>
> West Lafayette, IN 47907
>
> Ph:  (765) 496-8329
>
> Fax: (765) 496-2018
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:
> labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] *On Behalf Of *Abbie Gregg
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:45 PM
> *To:* Volkan Ozguz; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
> *Cc:* Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
> *Subject:* Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping
>
>
>
> We would be very interested in results on this. We have been using PVDF on
> the supply side and Polypro on the return side for most Nanolab construction
> in the last 10 years.
>
>
>
> Abbie Gregg
>
> President
>
> Abbie Gregg, Inc.
>
> 1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
>
> Tempe, Arizona 85281
>
> Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
>
> Cell 480-577-5083
>
> FAX 480-446-8001
>
> email agregg at abbiegregg.com
>
> website www.abbiegregg.com
>
>
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to
> this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie Gregg,
> Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This email and
> any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are intended for
> business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses or disclosures are
> strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the intended recipient you are
> hereby notified that the perusal, copying or dissemination of this email is
> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error,
> please notify the sender, and delete all copies of this message and its
> attachments immediately*.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:
> labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] *On Behalf Of *Volkan Ozguz
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:37 AM
> *To:* labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
> *Subject:* [labnetwork] PVC piping
>
>
>
>  Dear Colleagues,
> There are some new classes of PVC piping (and related joining techniques)
> marketed for use in ultra pure water applications including 18 MOhm levels.
> Are there any users in our network who used similar piping materials? How do
> they compare to PVDF or PP piping materials? What are your assements about
> installation, service and long term reliability?
> Thanks for your help,
> Volkan
>
>
> --
> Volkan ?zg?z
> Sabanc? University
> Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
> Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
> Office: 0 216 483 9880
> Fax: 0 216 483 9550
> Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu
>



-- 
Volkan ?zg?z
Sabanc? University
Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
Office: 0 216 483 9880
Fax: 0 216 483 9550
Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu
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From agregg at abbiegregg.com  Fri Oct  1 03:03:04 2010
From: agregg at abbiegregg.com (Abbie Gregg)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 03:03:04 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] PVC piping
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HI Volkan,
I am not sure where you are, but PVDF piping and valves is an export controlled item from the USA, Germany and elsewhere and is not available without an export license. I believe it can be used to make nuclear reactors, thus the red tape.

Abbie Gregg
President
Abbie Gregg, Inc.
1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
Tempe, Arizona 85281
Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
Cell 480-577-5083
FAX 480-446-8001
email agregg at abbiegregg.com<mailto:agregg at abbiegregg.com>
website www.abbiegregg.com<http://www.abbiegregg.com>

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie Gregg, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This email and any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are intended for business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses or disclosures are strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that the perusal, copying or dissemination of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender, and delete all copies of this message and its attachments immediately.


From: Volkan Ozguz [mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:28 PM
To: Kuhn, Jeffrey G
Cc: Abbie Gregg; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping

Dear Jeff
Thanks for the reply. You are right. The material proposed to us is HarvellXT. I will provide a ratioed price analysis as soon as it becomes available. I would like to place a disclaimer here. Some materials and services readily available at the US are surprisingly difficult to get here. I can find the most sophisticated LED lighting panels for example. But DI water piping was an "adventure" . Therefore the prices may not reflect the situation in USA.

Volkan


--
Volkan ?zg?z
Sabanc? University
Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
Office: 0 216 483 9880
Fax: 0 216 483 9550
Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.e<mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu>
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kuhn, Jeffrey G <kuhn1 at purdue.edu<mailto:kuhn1 at purdue.edu>> wrote:
My initial concern was with organic compounds (TOC) leaching from the PVC pipe and cement, but it appears this new material has low extractables. The other concern I have is with the smoothness of the pipe joints. Any crevices or beads in the joint would invite bacteria growth.

I did not dig too deeply into the specifications, but the following link from one supplier may be of some use:

http://www.harvellxt.com/

It appears there is training required to acquire the skill set needed to properly use the system, not unlike with PVDF fusion.

I?d also be curious to see the cost difference between the two systems.

Jeff Kuhn
Facility Engineer
Birck Nanotechnology Center
Purdue University
1205 W. State St.
West Lafayette, IN 47907
Ph:  (765) 496-8329
Fax: (765) 496-2018



From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>] On Behalf Of Abbie Gregg
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:45 PM
To: Volkan Ozguz; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
Cc: Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping

We would be very interested in results on this. We have been using PVDF on the supply side and Polypro on the return side for most Nanolab construction in the last 10 years.

Abbie Gregg
President
Abbie Gregg, Inc.
1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
Tempe, Arizona 85281
Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
Cell 480-577-5083
FAX 480-446-8001
email agregg at abbiegregg.com<mailto:agregg at abbiegregg.com>
website www.abbiegregg.com<http://www.abbiegregg.com>

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie Gregg, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This email and any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are intended for business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses or disclosures are strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that the perusal, copying or dissemination of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender, and delete all copies of this message and its attachments immediately.


From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>] On Behalf Of Volkan Ozguz
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:37 AM
To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
Subject: [labnetwork] PVC piping

 Dear Colleagues,
There are some new classes of PVC piping (and related joining techniques) marketed for use in ultra pure water applications including 18 MOhm levels. Are there any users in our network who used similar piping materials? How do they compare to PVDF or PP piping materials? What are your assements about installation, service and long term reliability?
Thanks for your help,
Volkan


--
Volkan ?zg?z
Sabanc? University
Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
Office: 0 216 483 9880
Fax: 0 216 483 9550
Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu<mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu>



--
Volkan ?zg?z
Sabanc? University
Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
Office: 0 216 483 9880
Fax: 0 216 483 9550
Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu<mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu>

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From pran at mit.edu  Fri Oct  1 13:12:06 2010
From: pran at mit.edu (Pran Mukherjee)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:12:06 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] Kevex Omicron X-ray Fluorescence Spectrometer for sale
Message-ID: <BLU108-W5930CCE80AEE0CFE8917BA4690@phx.gbl>


Hello,
My lab has an old x-ray fluorescence tool available.  We used it for measuring thin metallic films, but it hasn't been used since the late nineties.  It's been in a clean-room the entire time.  It's a Kevex Omicron X-ray Fluorescence Spectrometer by Fisons Instruments.  If interested, please e-mail me with an offer.
Thank you,--
Dr. Pran Mukherjee
MIT, Space Nanotechnology Laboratory
Phone: 617-253-3722;  Fax: 617-452-2888
http://www.linkedin.com/in/pranmukherjee

 		 	   		  
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From agregg at abbiegregg.com  Fri Oct  1 13:57:51 2010
From: agregg at abbiegregg.com (Abbie Gregg)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:57:51 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] PVC piping
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Hi Labnetwork,
I am looking for a new or used Rutherford Back Scattering apparatus, similar to Kobe Steel  HRBS- V500. Does anyone know what kind of approximate pricing these are going for new or used?

Abbie Gregg
President
Abbie Gregg, Inc.
1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
Tempe, Arizona 85281
Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
Cell 480-577-5083
FAX 480-446-8001
email agregg at abbiegregg.com<mailto:agregg at abbiegregg.com>
website www.abbiegregg.com<http://www.abbiegregg.com>

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie Gregg, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This email and any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are intended for business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses or disclosures are strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that the perusal, copying or dissemination of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender, and delete all copies of this message and its attachments immediately.


From: Kuhn, Jeffrey G [mailto:kuhn1 at purdue.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:16 PM
To: Abbie Gregg; Volkan Ozguz; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
Cc: Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
Subject: RE: [labnetwork] PVC piping

My initial concern was with organic compounds (TOC) leaching from the PVC pipe and cement, but it appears this new material has low extractables. The other concern I have is with the smoothness of the pipe joints. Any crevices or beads in the joint would invite bacteria growth.

I did not dig too deeply into the specifications, but the following link from one supplier may be of some use:

http://www.harvellxt.com/

It appears there is training required to acquire the skill set needed to properly use the system, not unlike with PVDF fusion.

I?d also be curious to see the cost difference between the two systems.

Jeff Kuhn
Facility Engineer
Birck Nanotechnology Center
Purdue University
1205 W. State St.
West Lafayette, IN 47907
Ph:  (765) 496-8329
Fax: (765) 496-2018



From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Abbie Gregg
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:45 PM
To: Volkan Ozguz; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
Cc: Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping

We would be very interested in results on this. We have been using PVDF on the supply side and Polypro on the return side for most Nanolab construction in the last 10 years.

Abbie Gregg
President
Abbie Gregg, Inc.
1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
Tempe, Arizona 85281
Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
Cell 480-577-5083
FAX 480-446-8001
email agregg at abbiegregg.com<mailto:agregg at abbiegregg.com>
website www.abbiegregg.com<http://www.abbiegregg.com>

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie Gregg, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This email and any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are intended for business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses or disclosures are strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that the perusal, copying or dissemination of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender, and delete all copies of this message and its attachments immediately.


From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Volkan Ozguz
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:37 AM
To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
Subject: [labnetwork] PVC piping

 Dear Colleagues,
There are some new classes of PVC piping (and related joining techniques) marketed for use in ultra pure water applications including 18 MOhm levels. Are there any users in our network who used similar piping materials? How do they compare to PVDF or PP piping materials? What are your assements about installation, service and long term reliability?
Thanks for your help,
Volkan


--
Volkan ?zg?z
Sabanc? University
Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
Office: 0 216 483 9880
Fax: 0 216 483 9550
Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu<mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu>
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From pkarulkar9 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  1 14:12:13 2010
From: pkarulkar9 at gmail.com (Pramod C Karulkar)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:12:13 -0800
Subject: [labnetwork] PVC piping
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  This also brings-up the broader technology transfer issue.    One has 
to be careful in providing answers  to technology questions in such open 
forums because the disclosed material may be protected by laws and 
policies, and the disclosure may have unintended consequences.   Of 
course this does not diminish the usefulness of the mtl.mit forum.  All 
the members of the forum have to reminded of its  "totally open" nature  
and the ineffectiveness of the / proprietary and/or confidential /caveats.

Pramod C Karulkar


On 9/30/2010 11:03 PM, Abbie Gregg wrote:
>
> HI Volkan,
>
> I am not sure where you are, but PVDF piping and valves is an export 
> controlled item from the USA, Germany and elsewhere and is not 
> available without an export license. I believe it can be used to make 
> nuclear reactors, thus the red tape.
>
> Abbie Gregg
>
> President
>
> Abbie Gregg, Inc.
>
> 1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
>
> Tempe, Arizona 85281
>
> Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
>
> Cell 480-577-5083
>
> FAX 480-446-8001
>
> email agregg at abbiegregg.com <mailto:agregg at abbiegregg.com>
>
> website www.abbiegregg.com <http://www.abbiegregg.com>
>
> /CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to 
> this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie 
> Gregg, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This 
> email and any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are 
> intended for business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses 
> or disclosures are strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the 
> intended recipient you are hereby notified that the perusal, copying 
> or dissemination of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have 
> received this communication in error, please notify the sender, and 
> delete all copies of this message and its attachments immediately/.
>
> *From:* Volkan Ozguz [mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:28 PM
> *To:* Kuhn, Jeffrey G
> *Cc:* Abbie Gregg; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
> *Subject:* Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping
>
> Dear Jeff
> Thanks for the reply. You are right. The material proposed to us is 
> HarvellXT. I will provide a ratioed price analysis as soon as it 
> becomes available. I would like to place a disclaimer here. Some 
> materials and services readily available at the US are surprisingly 
> difficult to get here. I can find the most sophisticated LED lighting 
> panels for example. But DI water piping was an "adventure" . Therefore 
> the prices may not reflect the situation in USA.
>
> Volkan
>
>
> -- 
> Volkan ?zg?z
> Sabanc? University
> Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
> Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
> Office: 0 216 483 9880
> Fax: 0 216 483 9550
> Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.e <mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kuhn, Jeffrey G <kuhn1 at purdue.edu 
> <mailto:kuhn1 at purdue.edu>> wrote:
>
> My initial concern was with organic compounds (TOC) leaching from the 
> PVC pipe and cement, but it appears this new material has low 
> extractables. The other concern I have is with the smoothness of the 
> pipe joints. Any crevices or beads in the joint would invite bacteria 
> growth.
>
> I did not dig too deeply into the specifications, but the following 
> link from one supplier may be of some use:
>
> http://www.harvellxt.com/
>
> It appears there is training required to acquire the skill set needed 
> to properly use the system, not unlike with PVDF fusion.
>
> I?d also be curious to see the cost difference between the two systems.
>
> Jeff Kuhn
>
> Facility Engineer
>
> Birck Nanotechnology Center
>
> Purdue University
>
> 1205 W. State St.
>
> West Lafayette, IN 47907
>
> Ph:  (765) 496-8329
>
> Fax: (765) 496-2018
>
> *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu 
> <mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> 
> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu 
> <mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Abbie Gregg
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:45 PM
> *To:* Volkan Ozguz; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu <mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
> *Cc:* Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
> *Subject:* Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping
>
> We would be very interested in results on this. We have been using 
> PVDF on the supply side and Polypro on the return side for most 
> Nanolab construction in the last 10 years.
>
> Abbie Gregg
>
> President
>
> Abbie Gregg, Inc.
>
> 1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
>
> Tempe, Arizona 85281
>
> Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
>
> Cell 480-577-5083
>
> FAX 480-446-8001
>
> email agregg at abbiegregg.com <mailto:agregg at abbiegregg.com>
>
> website www.abbiegregg.com <http://www.abbiegregg.com>
>
> /CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to 
> this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie 
> Gregg, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This 
> email and any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are 
> intended for business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses 
> or disclosures are strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the 
> intended recipient you are hereby notified that the perusal, copying 
> or dissemination of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have 
> received this communication in error, please notify the sender, and 
> delete all copies of this message and its attachments immediately/.
>
> *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu 
> <mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> 
> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu 
> <mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Volkan Ozguz
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:37 AM
> *To:* labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu <mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
> *Subject:* [labnetwork] PVC piping
>
>  Dear Colleagues,
> There are some new classes of PVC piping (and related joining 
> techniques) marketed for use in ultra pure water applications 
> including 18 MOhm levels. Are there any users in our network who used 
> similar piping materials? How do they compare to PVDF or PP piping 
> materials? What are your assements about installation, service and 
> long term reliability?
> Thanks for your help,
> Volkan
>
>
> -- 
> Volkan ?zg?z
> Sabanc? University
> Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
> Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
> Office: 0 216 483 9880
> Fax: 0 216 483 9550
> Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu <mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Volkan ?zg?z
> Sabanc? University
> Nanotechnology Research and Application Center
> Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
> Office: 0 216 483 9880
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From oiyinlee at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  5 18:42:30 2010
From: oiyinlee at yahoo.com (irene lee)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:42:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [labnetwork] DWL 200 laser alignment
Message-ID: <952907.34704.qm@web52002.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
Anybody can share with me the alignment procedure after changing
the krypton laser head on DWL200 equipment?

Appreciate your feedback in advance

Best regard,
O.Y



      
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From vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu  Wed Oct  6 08:57:15 2010
From: vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu (Volkan Ozguz)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:57:15 +0300
Subject: [labnetwork] PVC piping
In-Reply-To: <4CA6247D.3060306@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimwTuD4FdmiWt1KkqsVc22jcj04ZXMjZ1w1SY0a@mail.gmail.com>
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	<D14ADF941D26CD4E9015A15C62B39556699CCE1177@VPEXCH06.purdue.lcl>
	<AANLkTingemDB1rdDo26851PtJJiVgMWdy7vz5oroqJ7n@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4CA6247D.3060306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E100FB0A-4367-495D-A7E6-76C144F0C6EC@sabanciuniv.edu>

? after with Prof. Karulkar. This particular case gorevde doesn't provide any issues. There is a certified seller of PVDF piping in Turkey. 
Volkan 


Sent from my iPhone

On 01 Eki 2010, at 21:12, Pramod C Karulkar <pkarulkar9 at gmail.com> wrote:

> This also brings-up the broader technology transfer issue.    One has to be careful in providing answers  to technology questions in such open forums because the disclosed material may be protected by laws and policies, and the disclosure may have unintended consequences.   Of course this does not diminish the usefulness of the mtl.mit forum.  All the members of the forum have to reminded of its  "totally open" nature  and the ineffectiveness of the proprietary and/or confidential  caveats.  
> 
> Pramod C Karulkar
> 
> 
> On 9/30/2010 11:03 PM, Abbie Gregg wrote:
>> 
>> HI Volkan,
>> I am not sure where you are, but PVDF piping and valves is an export controlled item from the USA, Germany and elsewhere and is not available without an export license. I believe it can be used to make nuclear reactors,             thus the red tape.
>>  
>> Abbie Gregg
>> President
>> Abbie Gregg, Inc.
>> 1130 East University Drive, Suite 105
>> Tempe, Arizona 85281
>> Phone 480 446-8000 x 107
>> Cell 480-577-5083
>> FAX 480-446-8001
>> email agregg at abbiegregg.com
>> website www.abbiegregg.com
>>  
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:   All information contained in or attached to this email constitutes confidential information belonging to Abbie Gregg, Inc., its affiliates and subsidiaries and/or its clients.  This email and any attachments are proprietary and/or confidential and are intended for business use of the addressee(s) only.   All other uses or disclosures are strictly prohibited.  If the reader is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that the perusal, copying or dissemination of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender, and delete all copies of this message and its attachments immediately.
>>  
>>  
>> From: Volkan Ozguz [mailto:vozguz at sabanciuniv.edu] 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:28 PM
>> To: Kuhn, Jeffrey G
>> Cc: Abbie Gregg; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; Ciel Villawatkins; Mark Winter
>> Subject: Re: [labnetwork] PVC piping
>>  
>> Dear Jeff
>> Thanks for the reply. You are right. The material proposed to us is HarvellXT. I will provide a ratioed price analysis as soon as it becomes available. I would like to place a disclaimer here. Some materials and services readily available at the US are surprisingly difficult to get here. I can find the most sophisticated LED lighting panels for example. But DI water piping was an "adventure" . Therefore the prices may not reflect the situation in USA. 
>> 
>> Volkan
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Volkan ?zg?z
>> Sabanc? University
>> Nanotechnology Research and Application Center 
>> Orhanl?, Tuzla, ?stanbul 34956
>> Office: 0 216 483 9880
>> Fax: 0 216 483 9550
>> Email: vozguz at sabanciuniv.e
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kuhn,             Jeffrey G <kuhn1 at purdue.edu> wrote:
>> My initial concern was with organic compounds (TOC) leaching from the PVC pipe and cement, but it appears this new material has low extractables. The other concern I have is with the smoothness of the pipe joints. Any crevices or beads in the joint                   would invite bacteria growth.
>>  
>> I did not dig too deeply into the specifications, but the following link from one supplier may be of some use:
>>  
>> http://www.harvellxt.com/
>>  
>> It appears there is training required to acquire the skill set needed to properly use the system, not unlike with PVDF fusion.
>>  
>> I?d also be curious to see the cost difference between the two systems.
>>  
>> Jeff Kuhn
>> Facility Engineer
>> Birck Nanotechnology Center
>> Purdue University
>> 1205 W. State St.
>> West Lafayette, IN 47907
>> Ph:  (765) 496-8329
>> Fax: (765) 496-2018
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:
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From bradshaw1234 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 15:30:51 2010
From: bradshaw1234 at gmail.com (Keith Bradshaw)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:30:51 -0500
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>

We have 35 computers running systems in our clean room.

Stuff like the Ellipsometer, PECVD,Etchers, SEM, three different RTA's,
Furnaces.

How do you back up and protect all these systems from a disk failure?

We use WIN95, 98, and XP....whatever the manufacturers were using when they
wrote the operating software.

cordially,

Keith Bradshaw
University of Texas at Dallas
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From matthieu.nannini at mcgill.ca  Thu Oct  7 10:04:17 2010
From: matthieu.nannini at mcgill.ca (Matthieu Nannini, Dr.)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:04:17 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A23EC17A-DFE0-47A0-8C3A-C63CC27C1154@mcgill.ca>

We use Acronis which takes an image of hardrives. For very old computer on which windows doesn't run we pull out the hd and plug it to another computer using a IDE/SATA to usb kit.

HTH

-----------------------------------
Matthieu Nannini
McGill Nanotools Microfab
Manager
t: 514 398 3310
c: 514 758 3311
f: 514 398 8434
http://miam.physics.mcgill.ca/microfab
------------------------------------

Le 2010-10-06 ? 15:30, Keith Bradshaw a ?crit :

> We have 35 computers running systems in our clean room.
> 
> Stuff like the Ellipsometer, PECVD,Etchers, SEM, three different RTA's, Furnaces.
> 
> How do you back up and protect all these systems from a disk failure?
> 
> We use WIN95, 98, and XP....whatever the manufacturers were using when they wrote the operating software.
> 
> cordially,
> 
> Keith Bradshaw
> University of Texas at Dallas
> <ATT00001..txt>







From whipp003 at umn.edu  Thu Oct  7 11:57:03 2010
From: whipp003 at umn.edu (tony whipple)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:57:03 -0500
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CADEDCF.2020103@umn.edu>

  Hello Keith;

Great topic.

We had similar concerns. Some of our equipment use DOS
and the computers that came with the system could only accept
a limited size of hard drive, which you can not buy anymore.

When a hard drive failed we tried buying old recycled hard drives but
found they did not last too long. And we could not replace all the old
computers with a new one since some systems might need an ISA slot.

The solution we found was to use smaller solid state drives.
That way we could keep our legacy computer. This has worked
so well that we make back ups of the whole drive and copy it on
to another solid state drive. This spare solid state drive can then
be swapped out when the original hard drive fails. Minimum
equipment down time.  Only thing is that the back up work needs
to be done before you have problems. Making regular backups
from time to time helps, that way you do not lose to most current
recipes.

They make them in many sizes and configurations, IDE, SATA, and USB.

For backing up the drive I like to use an IDE to USB adapter and
plug that into the normal desk computer. From there you can
mirror or ghost the drive, or even store it on a remote server and
then copy it to the new spare solid state drive.

Regards, Tony W.





On 10/6/2010 2:30 PM, Keith Bradshaw wrote:
> We have 35 computers running systems in our clean room.
>
> Stuff like the Ellipsometer, PECVD,Etchers, SEM, three different 
> RTA's, Furnaces.
>
> How do you back up and protect all these systems from a disk failure?
>
> We use WIN95, 98, and XP....whatever the manufacturers were using when 
> they wrote the operating software.
>
> cordially,
>
> Keith Bradshaw
> University of Texas at Dallas
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> labnetwork mailing list
> labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
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From gwatson at princeton.edu  Thu Oct  7 14:23:41 2010
From: gwatson at princeton.edu (George P. Watson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:23:41 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F23949F0F1837429C6CD1D82B695E6505CCC875@EXCLUSTER2.pu.win.princeton.edu>

Hi Keith,

 

We have the same problem, including a computer running OS/2 and one
running Windows 3.11.  We recently asked our information technology
department to help backup the drives of our older computers.  They
recommended that besides keeping a copy of each disk on a server, that
we configure new harddrives with the disk images (Some of the drives may
be hard to find in the future).  We  are installing the new drives in
our tools and keeping the original drives as backups, just in case.  We
have to shut down the tools and pull the drives out, about a one day
turn-around.  Take good photos if they are hard-to-access industrial
computers with lots of I/O connections.

 

George Patrick Watson (Pat)

Princeton

From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu
[mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Keith Bradshaw
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:31 PM
To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups

 

We have 35 computers running systems in our clean room.

Stuff like the Ellipsometer, PECVD,Etchers, SEM, three different RTA's,
Furnaces.

How do you back up and protect all these systems from a disk failure?

We use WIN95, 98, and XP....whatever the manufacturers were using when
they wrote the operating software.

cordially,

Keith Bradshaw
University of Texas at Dallas

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From psharris at magma.ca  Sun Oct 10 10:16:25 2010
From: psharris at magma.ca (P. Scott Harris)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:16:25 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CB1CAB9.6070509@magma.ca>

  Hi ,

You might try another option which could be useful. If you have 'network boot' 
capabilities on the motherboard of the systems that you are using, or on the 
network interface card itself in older systems, then you might try the following:

- set up a PXE boot server somewhere. A windows machine running a tftp server 
(the free TFTPD32 would be an example) or some Linux distribution can be used 
for this
- look at using PXELINUX and creating bootable disk image files for each machine
- put the contents of the hard drives that need backing up on the PXE boot 
server as files that can be shared over the network

I have done this for DOS based systems and it is supposed to be possible with 
Windows based systems (a Google search seems to show lots of instances). It is a 
typical setup when trying to install operating systems on multiple machines from 
a single server.

What happens is that, upon booting, your machine looks to the network for a DHCP 
server. The DHCP server (TFTPD32 has this built in) provides a boot file image 
specific to the MAC address of the machine making the request. The machine 
creates a virtual disk from this boot file image and then boots from it. This 
virtual disk would also contain all the necessary network software to allow 
access to the server.

The upside is that all the files that would normally reside on the local machine 
can now reside on the network server and the local machine basically becomes a 
diskless workstation. Your local hard disk problems are eliminated. The network 
files can then be backed up in the usual way.

The downside (may depend on the local machine operating system) can be the work 
involved in getting networking to run on the local machine. Various versions of 
WIndows have better networking support that DOS so this may not necessarily be 
an issue. Hope this helps.

On 06/10/2010 3:30 PM, Keith Bradshaw wrote:
> We have 35 computers running systems in our clean room.
>
> Stuff like the Ellipsometer, PECVD,Etchers, SEM, three different RTA's, Furnaces.
>
> How do you back up and protect all these systems from a disk failure?
>
> We use WIN95, 98, and XP....whatever the manufacturers were using when they 
> wrote the operating software.
>
> cordially,
>
> Keith Bradshaw
> University of Texas at Dallas

-- 
Best regards,

P. Scott Harris, P.Eng.
H&L Associates
21 Parkmount Crescent
Nepean, Ontario K2H 5T3 Canada






From vito.logiudice at uwaterloo.ca  Fri Oct 15 14:59:08 2010
From: vito.logiudice at uwaterloo.ca (Vito Logiudice)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:59:08 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] ICP RIE etch of NbTiN: chamber contamination issues?
Message-ID: <4998D909302C254F82125395DA58AF780338DBBF11@CONNMAIL.connect.uwaterloo.ca>

Hello all,

We are contemplating the possibility of etching NbTiN in our ICP RIE chlorine etch system (Oxford Plasmalab 100 with ICP380 source). Initial feedback regarding potential chamber contamination issues are encouraging but we would appreciate any input from people whom may have had experience etching this material in the past. Many thanks in advance.

Regards,
Vito Logiudice

Vito Logiudice  P.Eng.
Director of Operations
QNC & RAC Fabrication Facilities

University of Waterloo
200 University Avenue West
Waterloo, ON
Canada   N2L 3G1
Tel:  1-519-888-4567  ext. 38703
Fax: 1-519-888-7610
Cel:  1-519-500-2538
Email: vlogiudi at uwaterloo.ca

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From hughes at illinois.edu  Fri Oct 15 17:27:12 2010
From: hughes at illinois.edu (Hughes, John S)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:12 -0500
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups
In-Reply-To: <4CADEDCF.2020103@umn.edu>
References: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CADEDCF.2020103@umn.edu>
Message-ID: <87BCD977-C874-464D-AF59-2A1375E8F0D0@illinois.edu>


Hello Tony,

As per your suggestion, I asked our IT folks to look into getting SSDs to use as backups for a lot of our process tool computers. We have quite a few "legacy" systems, and the question they asked me was: where can we get an SSD drive with an IDE connection and <2GB capacity, since some of our older systems can't handle the high capacity drives.

If you, or anyone else, knows of a good vendor for such drives, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

Thanks
John

-------------------------------------------------------------
John S. Hughes                         Office: (217) 333-4674
Associate Director                        FAX: (217) 244-6375
Laboratory Operations                     hughes at illinois.edu<mailto:hughes at illinois.edu>
Micro and Nanotechnology Laboratory
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
3114 Micro and Nanotechnology Laboratory
208 North Wright Street
Urbana, Illinois  61801              http://mntl.illinois.edu
-------------------------------------------------------------

On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:57 AM, tony whipple wrote:

Hello Keith;

Great topic.

We had similar concerns. Some of our equipment use DOS
and the computers that came with the system could only accept
a limited size of hard drive, which you can not buy anymore.

When a hard drive failed we tried buying old recycled hard drives but
found they did not last too long. And we could not replace all the old
computers with a new one since some systems might need an ISA slot.

The solution we found was to use smaller solid state drives.
That way we could keep our legacy computer. This has worked
so well that we make back ups of the whole drive and copy it on
to another solid state drive. This spare solid state drive can then
be swapped out when the original hard drive fails. Minimum
equipment down time.  Only thing is that the back up work needs
to be done before you have problems. Making regular backups
from time to time helps, that way you do not lose to most current
recipes.

They make them in many sizes and configurations, IDE, SATA, and USB.

For backing up the drive I like to use an IDE to USB adapter and
plug that into the normal desk computer. From there you can
mirror or ghost the drive, or even store it on a remote server and
then copy it to the new spare solid state drive.

Regards, Tony W.





On 10/6/2010 2:30 PM, Keith Bradshaw wrote:
We have 35 computers running systems in our clean room.

Stuff like the Ellipsometer, PECVD,Etchers, SEM, three different RTA's, Furnaces.

How do you back up and protect all these systems from a disk failure?

We use WIN95, 98, and XP....whatever the manufacturers were using when they wrote the operating software.

cordially,

Keith Bradshaw
University of Texas at Dallas


_______________________________________________
labnetwork mailing list
labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork


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From whipp003 at umn.edu  Fri Oct 15 23:03:21 2010
From: whipp003 at umn.edu (tony whipple)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:03:21 -0500
Subject: [labnetwork] System backups
In-Reply-To: <87BCD977-C874-464D-AF59-2A1375E8F0D0@illinois.edu>
References: <AANLkTimMtcFQQb8hF616FKEGhqtRi_Y1HbEHC_pmu_u8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CADEDCF.2020103@umn.edu>
	<87BCD977-C874-464D-AF59-2A1375E8F0D0@illinois.edu>
Message-ID: <4CB915F9.4050502@umn.edu>

  Hello John;

There are several places out there, but the place we currently
get our supplies from is Memory Depot.  The nice thing is the
package plugs into the 40 pin connector and for power a small
wire from the package goes to the normal 4 pin plug.

Web link to the IDE section http://www.memorydepot.com/ssd_diskonmodule.asp
(This is not a recommendation, just a known source that we had 
successful results with.)

We are current search is for the SCSI SSD package

Bye, Tony W.


On 10/15/2010 4:27 PM, Hughes, John S wrote:
> Hello Tony,
>
> As per your suggestion, I asked our IT folks to look into getting SSDs to use as backups for a lot of our process tool computers. We have quite a few "legacy" systems, and the question they asked me was: where can we get an SSD drive with an IDE connection and<2GB capacity, since some of our older systems can't handle the high capacity drives.
>
> If you, or anyone else, knows of a good vendor for such drives, I'd appreciate hearing about them.
>
> Thanks
> John
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> John S. Hughes                         Office: (217) 333-4674
> Associate Director                        FAX: (217) 244-6375
> Laboratory Operations                     hughes at illinois.edu<mailto:hughes at illinois.edu>
> Micro and Nanotechnology Laboratory
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> 3114 Micro and Nanotechnology Laboratory
> 208 North Wright Street
> Urbana, Illinois  61801              http://mntl.illinois.edu
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:57 AM, tony whipple wrote:
>
> Hello Keith;
>
> Great topic.
>
> We had similar concerns. Some of our equipment use DOS
> and the computers that came with the system could only accept
> a limited size of hard drive, which you can not buy anymore.
>
> When a hard drive failed we tried buying old recycled hard drives but
> found they did not last too long. And we could not replace all the old
> computers with a new one since some systems might need an ISA slot.
>
> The solution we found was to use smaller solid state drives.
> That way we could keep our legacy computer. This has worked
> so well that we make back ups of the whole drive and copy it on
> to another solid state drive. This spare solid state drive can then
> be swapped out when the original hard drive fails. Minimum
> equipment down time.  Only thing is that the back up work needs
> to be done before you have problems. Making regular backups
> from time to time helps, that way you do not lose to most current
> recipes.
>
> They make them in many sizes and configurations, IDE, SATA, and USB.
>
> For backing up the drive I like to use an IDE to USB adapter and
> plug that into the normal desk computer. From there you can
> mirror or ghost the drive, or even store it on a remote server and
> then copy it to the new spare solid state drive.
>
> Regards, Tony W.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/6/2010 2:30 PM, Keith Bradshaw wrote:
> We have 35 computers running systems in our clean room.
>
> Stuff like the Ellipsometer, PECVD,Etchers, SEM, three different RTA's, Furnaces.
>
> How do you back up and protect all these systems from a disk failure?
>
> We use WIN95, 98, and XP....whatever the manufacturers were using when they wrote the operating software.
>
> cordially,
>
> Keith Bradshaw
> University of Texas at Dallas
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> labnetwork mailing list
> labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
> https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork
>
>
> <ATT00001..txt>
>



From codreanu at seas.upenn.edu  Fri Oct 22 10:28:12 2010
From: codreanu at seas.upenn.edu (Iulian Codreanu)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:28:12 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] POU abatement survey
Message-ID: <4CC19F7C.5090609@seas.upenn.edu>

Hi.

I am trying to come up with a POU abatement solution for our new 
cleanroom and I need your help.

What vendor(s) do you use?  How positive has your overall experience 
with them been?

Thank you very much.

Iulian
-- 
iulian Codreanu, Ph.D.
Director, Penn NanoFab
200 South 33rd Street
Room 305 Moore Bldg
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6314
P: 215-898-9308
F: 215-573-2068
www.seas.upenn.edu/~nanofab



From jeffg at purdue.edu  Wed Oct 27 14:04:13 2010
From: jeffg at purdue.edu (Grau, Jeffrey E)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:04:13 -0400
Subject: [labnetwork] Cleanroom equipment
Message-ID: <4236EE4ACF400B428955E0E7D5012AAD7C9B0092D2@VPEXCH06.purdue.lcl>

Hello Iulian Codreanu, Ph.D.
Director, Penn NanoFab
	My name is Jeff Grau and I am the Lithography equipment engineer here at Purdue University. I am emailing you to help you with your POU abatement survey. I will include in this email all the specific lab equipment that I am responsible for at Purdue. I have been in the Litho end of engineering for over 34 years and I feel my comments and recommendations should help you in your final decisions. At this current time I have the ownership of 6 Karl Suss Aligners. Currently we have(4) MJB-3 aligners. I would consider these aligners the work horses of the clean room. They have the ability to expose pieces of wafers as well as whole 3 inch wafers. The up time on these tools is fantastic. Very little maintenance is needed to keep them up and running. We also have the MA-6 Suss aligner. This tool has had its problems over the past 4 years. Suss had been very slow with the support that is needed to keep the students research on schedule. We also have the Suss BA-6 Bonder. This tool as well has had its share of growing pains. I did not have any say in the purchase of these tools but myself, would try and stay away from the purchase of these 2 tools. I feel there are better companies out there that offer better service, support and equipment. I also have a Canon PLA-501F Aligner. This tool as well as the MJB3 is a work horse. The up time is second to none. In my 6 years of service here at Purdue, I needed to call service once. They came and adjusted the machine and it is still performing very well.
	I am the owner of (4) Specialty Coatings G3 resist spinners, and (3) 6000 series spinners. These spinners are very accurate, and very dependable. The overall cost of these spinners is by far a big factor in their purchase. They can be purchased for under $5000.00 and the overall customer support has been very good. These spinners have been performing very well here at Purdue.
	I am also the owner and operator of (2) TRE Electromask Systems. Both have the ability to pattern generate and to Image Repeat. One system is set up for 10x reduction the other for 5x reduction. Much like the Suss MJB3's these Electromask systems are work horses. They are both supported by Mario Portillo from High'born Technology. The up time of these two systems are light years ahead of the competition, and the overall refinement out way any other tool in its class. If service is needed, most times the problem can be resolved over the phone talking to Mario. Mario has been very supportive and positive in the upkeep of these tools. I have had the pleasure to operate GCA and Micronic laser Systems, and my tool of choice still remains as the TRE. 
	In the process end of mask making I have a YES Yield Engineering System Vacuum oven for image reversal. I have yet needed to call YES for support. We purchased this tool used and as is. The oven has been running everyday for the past 5 years and with no problems at all. We also acquired a newer APT Applied Process Technology automated mask processor. This tool was also purchased as an as is. A little elbow grease and cleanroom wipes brought this tool back to as new condition.
	I hope you find this information valuable, and if you have any further questions regarding any specific tools, I will be more than happy to help you. Have a real nice day...Jeff Grau, Purdue University