From conrad at Princeton.EDU Sat Sep 7 15:29:49 2013 From: conrad at Princeton.EDU (Conrad L. Silvestre) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 19:29:49 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] High Purity Valve Cleaning Service Message-ID: <942F7C9560506B479A2B7D73DB9F98D2439C55B2@CSGMBX204W.pu.win.princeton.edu> I am looking for a vendor to disassemble, clean, and reassemble Swagelock high purity valves such as the SS-DLS4. Does anyone know of a vendor? Conrad Silvestre Department of Electrical Engineering C430 EQuad, CN-5263 Princeton University Princeton, New Jersey 08544-5263 Office: 609-258-6236 FAX: 609-258-1840 Business Cell: 609-356-8825 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From len.olona at ou.edu Sun Sep 8 09:05:29 2013 From: len.olona at ou.edu (Olona, Leonard E.) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 13:05:29 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] High Purity Valve Cleaning Service In-Reply-To: <942F7C9560506B479A2B7D73DB9F98D2439C55B2@CSGMBX204W.pu.win.princeton.edu> References: <942F7C9560506B479A2B7D73DB9F98D2439C55B2@CSGMBX204W.pu.win.princeton.edu> Message-ID: Craig Cheney from Infinity may be a good resource. Len OU Cleanroom Manager On Sep 8, 2013, at 4:44 AM, "Conrad L. Silvestre" > wrote: I am looking for a vendor to disassemble, clean, and reassemble Swagelock high purity valves such as the SS-DLS4. Does anyone know of a vendor? Conrad Silvestre Department of Electrical Engineering C430 EQuad, CN-5263 Princeton University Princeton, New Jersey 08544-5263 Office: 609-258-6236 FAX: 609-258-1840 Business Cell: 609-356-8825 _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cooper at exper-tech.com Sun Sep 8 12:06:58 2013 From: cooper at exper-tech.com (Mark Cooper) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 09:06:58 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] High Purity Valve Cleaning Service References: <942F7C9560506B479A2B7D73DB9F98D2439C55B2@CSGMBX204W.pu.win.princeton.edu> Message-ID: <92F6BFEEC7D07948AC17DC59716B434B01A52EAB@exserver.expertech.local> Expertech in Scotts Valley provides these services. We can also repair or rebuild gas panels from tools. Conrad, please tell me more. We also offer a very large inventory of high purity gas sticks recently removed from a late model tier 1 fab. I can forward the lists to anyone with interest. Mark Cooper Vice President General Manager Main: 831-439-9300 ext. 422 Fax: 831-439-8139 Mobile: 831-332-9396 cooper at exper-tech.com This email message is for the sole use of the addressee(s) and may contain Expertech confidential and legally privileged information. 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URL: From tbritton at criticalsystemsinc.com Sun Sep 8 12:17:12 2013 From: tbritton at criticalsystemsinc.com (Tom Britton) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:17:12 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] High Purity Valve Cleaning Service In-Reply-To: <942F7C9560506B479A2B7D73DB9F98D2439C55B2@CSGMBX204W.pu.win.princeton.edu> References: <942F7C9560506B479A2B7D73DB9F98D2439C55B2@CSGMBX204W.pu.win.princeton.edu> Message-ID: <9820889A26AAC34EBEB01D62DFCEEB2E0101E74E@P3PWEX2MB006.ex2.secureserver.net> Hello Conrad, We've looked into doing this over the years, but with the cost of the repair kit at around $40, the labor to do it, and the cost of the testing to make sure it's seal to atmosphere is correct and it's properly shutting off, you're better off buying a new one. They're just not that expensive. A new APTech 316SS EP valve with 1/4" VCR fittings runs about $120, and the Var body version (for corrosives) runs about $185. FYI Best to you sir! Tom Britton Director of Sales Critical Systems, Inc. Direct: 208-890-1417 Office: 877-572-5515 www.CriticalSystemsInc.com [logo for email signature png] From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Conrad L. Silvestre Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 1:30 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] High Purity Valve Cleaning Service I am looking for a vendor to disassemble, clean, and reassemble Swagelock high purity valves such as the SS-DLS4. Does anyone know of a vendor? Conrad Silvestre Department of Electrical Engineering C430 EQuad, CN-5263 Princeton University Princeton, New Jersey 08544-5263 Office: 609-258-6236 FAX: 609-258-1840 Business Cell: 609-356-8825 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Abstract Submission Deadline: 14 February 2014 Submission and Registration information at: http://www.cns.fas.harvard.edu/UGIM2014/ Symposium on Operations and Management of Nanotechnology Research Facilities Submissions on all topics involving management of nanotechnology research facilities and academic laboratories will be considered. Papers are requested with a focus on one of the session topics listed below. Since this two-day symposium is dedicated to shared laboratory management, research papers are not appropriate. Presentations Solicited on the Following Topics 1. Multi-User Facility Operations 2. Laboratory Safety and discipline 3. Anti-Contamination Policies 4. Supporting Numerous Wafer Materials and Sizes 5. Lab Control Systems, Instrument Interlocks, Electronic Records 6. Emerging Processes 7. Staffing Strategies including use (or not) of student ?Super Users? 8. Financing for Core Facilities, Capital Planning, and lab accounting Also at UGIM2014 Discussion Panel Topics: In addition to the Oral Paper Sessions, there will be 4-6 Discussion Panels on topics of cleanroom operations. Topical Lunch: Networking and topic discussion will continue during lunch at topic-assigned tables. Exhibits: Meet leading cleanroom and equipment vendors in a relaxed environment. New This Year: Optional ?New Lab Bootie Camp?: Sunday preceding the start of UGIM there will be a half-day tutorial session on new laboratory startup including presentations on safety, tool maintenance options, and electronic tool management (interlocking and reservations). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. See everyone at UGIM 2014! Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. MNTC Cleanroom Manager University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shott at stanford.edu Tue Sep 10 11:31:41 2013 From: shott at stanford.edu (John Shott) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:31:41 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] Equipment Cleaning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <522F3B5D.9030201@stanford.edu> Rick: We are currently using two different companies ... one of them near you ... for that service. They are: MK Recovery Group 100 Willow St. North Andover, MA 01845 *Phone*: 1-978-688-0606 *Fax*: 1-978-975-8464 Pentagon Technologies 21031 Alexander Ct, Hayward, CA 94545 Phone:(510) 783-5050 MK Recovery Group in Andover, MA is our choice when we have metals that have significant reclaim value (that is, gold, platinum, and friends). While I forget the exact algorithm, basically after reclaiming a certain amount of the precious metal for their efforts, we are credited with the remaining value of the metal. When the metals on the parts are less valuable, we use Pentagon Technologies here in California. I hope this helps, John On 9/10/2013 3:31 AM, Morrison, Richard H., Jr. wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I am in need of a cleaning service for sputtering system and > evaporation system parts. I have a bead blast machine, but I would > like to try to farm this service out, have any of you used outside > cleaning vendors for this? > > Thanks in advance. > > Rick > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a bead blast machine, but I would > like to try to farm this service out, have any of you used outside > cleaning vendors for this? > > Thanks in advance. > > Rick > > > Draper Laboratory > Group Leader Microfabrication Operations > 555 Technology Square > Cambridge Ma, 02139-3563 > > www.draper.com > rmorrison at draper.com > W 617-258-3420 > C 508-930-3461 > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ccheney at infinityhps.com Tue Sep 10 17:03:28 2013 From: ccheney at infinityhps.com (Craig Cheney) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:03:28 -0500 Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <030701ceae69$3f16a1d0$bd43e570$@infinityhps.com> Julia, We have installed quite a few MOCVD reactors at different Universities and production facilities in different settings. There are many nuances to installing and operating a MOCVD reactor. With so many different details to discuss I will list the major ones in order of importance. Without knowing what type of material you will be growing I will list the options that would apply to all and note possible options for you. Facilities: Location, we have installed MOCVD reactors in non-clean room areas where the reactors had a load lock. If the system you are looking at has a load lock you might want to consider saving your expensive cleanroom square footage for a tool that requires it. One note here, most reactors that utilize a load lock (whether in a clean room or not) require 5% (H2) forming gas to condition the load lock. Another key consideration is structure, these units take up a lot of floor space and are heavy, make sure your structure is rated to handle the weight, and plan ahead on how you are going to get it from your loading dock to its final destination. Exhaust, the reactor will require some significant exhaust, make sure your clean room (or other if not in a cleanroom) make-up air handler is ready to make up the air that will be exhausted. Another major concern for exhaust is, the type rating on the exhaust. Not knowing the requirements from your EH&S department, it would be a good idea to review with them the gases you will be using on the tool as well as well as the contents of the process pump effluent, and whether or not you will be scrubbing your process exhaust. H2 Supply, you will need a large source of Hydrogen to operate this tool, and the higher the quality the better. If your campus has house Hydrogen or a bulk source for it, your one step in the right direction. We had one customer (University) who tried running their reactor on a switch over panel with a four cylinder manifold on each side of the switch over, this type of setup caused them more problems and equipment repairs than if they had just invested in a bulk source of Hydrogen. Power, most reactors such as this will require quite a bit of power, typically 250 to 400 amps of 208V 3 phase power. One major consideration, if your reactor is purifying the Hydrogen with an older style Palladium cell, you also might want to consider a UPS system for running the heaters for the Palladium cell, on the older style ones, if they cool off too fast they can crack the Palladium inside them and render them completely useless (and they aren't cheap to replace ~ 50k). The newer Palladium cells are a little more robust and can withstand more abuse. One other note, typically the process pumps on these type of reactors run 24X7 due to the fact that they quickly seize up when shut down and allowed to cool, so be prepared for that also (process pumps for reactors are not cheap either). Process Cooling water, MOCVD reactors require quite a bit of process cooling water, if your facility has a good house PCW system then you are probably ok, typical flow-rates are around 60 to 100 LPM at 17-25 degrees C depending on manufacturer and reactor size. Process Gas Delivery, without knowing what type of material you will be growing (III-V, II-VI, IV, IV-V-VI, semiconductors) I can't say what type of gas you will be using, but regardless of the type of semiconductor, you will be installing some toxic gas systems to support them. These gases will be required to be in gas cabinets with high quality purge panels, the gas cabinets will require building exhaust also, the gas delivery lines will have to be high quality electro-polished stainless steel, some gas types will also be required to be coaxial style gas lines, the assembly method for gas lines are required to be welded throughout. Again, I would review all required gases with your EH&S department to ensure you have the proper equipment to support them. Life Safety, you will be required to incorporate life safety systems to monitor all spaces (gas cabinets, reactor, and people space) for the presence of flammable gas, toxic gas (dependent on material type) and Oxygen deficient atm. Process Exhaust, if you are going to be using scrubbers (typically activated charcoal bed type), you will need a good maintenance program to stay on top of the scrubber maintenance, these units require regeneration and periodic charcoal changes. If you will not be using process exhaust scrubbers, then you need to make sure your process exhaust effluent is compatible with the building exhaust system you will be connecting it to. Also, depending the material type grown your process exhaust lines may be required to be heated to prevent buildup of process byproducts. Operation: Maintenance, as far as operation goes with these systems they do require periodic maintenance which correlates to run time as with most semiconductor processing equipment. Without a good understanding of the material type you will be growing it would be futile to mention different maintenance routines and what is required. I will say this much, if the required maintenance is not performed when it is supposed to be done, it can cause process deviations, equipment failures, and possible life safety issues. Some reactor processes require acid based cleaning of components on the reactor chamber, you may need a wet bench to support this or a bench available for cleaning. Analytical tools, depending on the film type grown, you will need to the proper analytical tools to measure the specific characteristics of the film type that you are quantifying. Waste Stream, again, depending on the type of material grown you will develop a waste stream that will need to be managed. Those are the major thoughts when considering a MOCVD reactor, we have helped many different customers achieve a cost effective solution with regards to installation and startup of these systems, so don't let all the details scare you. We would be happy discuss any questions or concerns that you might have. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions or concerns. Thank you, Craig Cheney Description: cid:image001.jpg at 01C7E19F.47FFBAE0 Desk: (608)834-4200 Fax: (608)834-4299 Cell: (608)438-8714 This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45 AM To: Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } Hi there! We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. See everyone at UGIM 2014! Cheers! 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Our Oxford PECVD tool vendor did recommend Dry Ice clean as one of the chamber clean methods, though. I will post the results once we give it a try. Best wishes Raghavan ************************************************* Dr.Vijayaraghavan Technology Manager National Nanofabrication Centre Centre for Nano Science and Engineering Indian institute of Science ( IISc) Bangalore - 560 012 India Ph: 09663304316 *************************************************** From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of John Shott Sent: 10 September 2013 21:02 To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; Morrison, Richard H., Jr. Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Equipment Cleaning Rick: We are currently using two different companies ... one of them near you ... for that service. They are: MK Recovery Group 100 Willow St. North Andover, MA 01845 Phone: 1-978-688-0606 Fax: 1-978-975-8464 Pentagon Technologies 21031 Alexander Ct, Hayward, CA 94545 Phone:(510) 783-5050 MK Recovery Group in Andover, MA is our choice when we have metals that have significant reclaim value (that is, gold, platinum, and friends). While I forget the exact algorithm, basically after reclaiming a certain amount of the precious metal for their efforts, we are credited with the remaining value of the metal. When the metals on the parts are less valuable, we use Pentagon Technologies here in California. I hope this helps, John On 9/10/2013 3:31 AM, Morrison, Richard H., Jr. wrote: Hi everyone, I am in need of a cleaning service for sputtering system and evaporation system parts. I have a bead blast machine, but I would like to try to farm this service out, have any of you used outside cleaning vendors for this? Thanks in advance. 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Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. MNTC Cleanroom Manager University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Craig Cheney [ccheney at infinityhps.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:03 PM To: Aebersold,Julia W.; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Cc: ccheney at infinityhps.com; bfisher at infinityhps.com Subject: RE: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems Julia, We have installed quite a few MOCVD reactors at different Universities and production facilities in different settings. There are many nuances to installing and operating a MOCVD reactor. With so many different details to discuss I will list the major ones in order of importance. Without knowing what type of material you will be growing I will list the options that would apply to all and note possible options for you. Facilities: Location, we have installed MOCVD reactors in non-clean room areas where the reactors had a load lock. If the system you are looking at has a load lock you might want to consider saving your expensive cleanroom square footage for a tool that requires it. One note here, most reactors that utilize a load lock (whether in a clean room or not) require 5% (H2) forming gas to condition the load lock. Another key consideration is structure, these units take up a lot of floor space and are heavy, make sure your structure is rated to handle the weight, and plan ahead on how you are going to get it from your loading dock to its final destination. Exhaust, the reactor will require some significant exhaust, make sure your clean room (or other if not in a cleanroom) make-up air handler is ready to make up the air that will be exhausted. Another major concern for exhaust is, the type rating on the exhaust. Not knowing the requirements from your EH&S department, it would be a good idea to review with them the gases you will be using on the tool as well as well as the contents of the process pump effluent, and whether or not you will be scrubbing your process exhaust. H2 Supply, you will need a large source of Hydrogen to operate this tool, and the higher the quality the better. If your campus has house Hydrogen or a bulk source for it, your one step in the right direction. We had one customer (University) who tried running their reactor on a switch over panel with a four cylinder manifold on each side of the switch over, this type of setup caused them more problems and equipment repairs than if they had just invested in a bulk source of Hydrogen. Power, most reactors such as this will require quite a bit of power, typically 250 to 400 amps of 208V 3 phase power. One major consideration, if your reactor is purifying the Hydrogen with an older style Palladium cell, you also might want to consider a UPS system for running the heaters for the Palladium cell, on the older style ones, if they cool off too fast they can crack the Palladium inside them and render them completely useless (and they aren?t cheap to replace ~ 50k). The newer Palladium cells are a little more robust and can withstand more abuse. One other note, typically the process pumps on these type of reactors run 24X7 due to the fact that they quickly seize up when shut down and allowed to cool, so be prepared for that also (process pumps for reactors are not cheap either). Process Cooling water, MOCVD reactors require quite a bit of process cooling water, if your facility has a good house PCW system then you are probably ok, typical flow-rates are around 60 to 100 LPM at 17-25 degrees C depending on manufacturer and reactor size. Process Gas Delivery, without knowing what type of material you will be growing (III-V, II-VI, IV, IV-V-VI, semiconductors) I can?t say what type of gas you will be using, but regardless of the type of semiconductor, you will be installing some toxic gas systems to support them. These gases will be required to be in gas cabinets with high quality purge panels, the gas cabinets will require building exhaust also, the gas delivery lines will have to be high quality electro-polished stainless steel, some gas types will also be required to be coaxial style gas lines, the assembly method for gas lines are required to be welded throughout. Again, I would review all required gases with your EH&S department to ensure you have the proper equipment to support them. Life Safety, you will be required to incorporate life safety systems to monitor all spaces (gas cabinets, reactor, and people space) for the presence of flammable gas, toxic gas (dependent on material type) and Oxygen deficient atm. Process Exhaust, if you are going to be using scrubbers (typically activated charcoal bed type), you will need a good maintenance program to stay on top of the scrubber maintenance, these units require regeneration and periodic charcoal changes. If you will not be using process exhaust scrubbers, then you need to make sure your process exhaust effluent is compatible with the building exhaust system you will be connecting it to. Also, depending the material type grown your process exhaust lines may be required to be heated to prevent buildup of process byproducts. Operation: Maintenance, as far as operation goes with these systems they do require periodic maintenance which correlates to run time as with most semiconductor processing equipment. Without a good understanding of the material type you will be growing it would be futile to mention different maintenance routines and what is required. I will say this much, if the required maintenance is not performed when it is supposed to be done, it can cause process deviations, equipment failures, and possible life safety issues. Some reactor processes require acid based cleaning of components on the reactor chamber, you may need a wet bench to support this or a bench available for cleaning. Analytical tools, depending on the film type grown, you will need to the proper analytical tools to measure the specific characteristics of the film type that you are quantifying. Waste Stream, again, depending on the type of material grown you will develop a waste stream that will need to be managed. Those are the major thoughts when considering a MOCVD reactor, we have helped many different customers achieve a cost effective solution with regards to installation and startup of these systems, so don?t let all the details scare you. We would be happy discuss any questions or concerns that you might have. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions or concerns. Thank you, Craig Cheney [Description: cid:image001.jpg at 01C7E19F.47FFBAE0] Desk: (608)834-4200 Fax: (608)834-4299 Cell: (608)438-8714 This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45 AM To: Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } Hi there! We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. See everyone at UGIM 2014! Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. MNTC Cleanroom Manager University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5517 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From ccheney at infinityhps.com Wed Sep 11 10:37:36 2013 From: ccheney at infinityhps.com (Craig Cheney) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:37:36 -0500 Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems In-Reply-To: References: <030701ceae69$3f16a1d0$bd43e570$@infinityhps.com> Message-ID: Julia, Another option that I neglected to mention for your H2 source is an H2 generator. Hogan has different models that would work great for you. You would need a reliable DI water source for this, but there are many advantages with a system like this. Let me know if you have any other questions. Craig Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Aebersold,Julia W." wrote: > > Mnay thanx Craig for the in depth information and will add this to our considerations. The intent of this tool is for GaN growth. > > Cheers! > > Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. > > MNTC Cleanroom Manager > > University of Louisville > > 2210 South Brook Street > > Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 > > Louisville, KY 40292 > > > > (502) 852-1572 > > http://louisville.edu/micronano/ > From: Craig Cheney [ccheney at infinityhps.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:03 PM > To: Aebersold,Julia W.; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > Cc: ccheney at infinityhps.com; bfisher at infinityhps.com > Subject: RE: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems > > Julia, > > We have installed quite a few MOCVD reactors at different Universities and production facilities in different settings. There are many nuances to installing and operating a MOCVD reactor. With so many different details to discuss I will list the major ones in order of importance. Without knowing what type of material you will be growing I will list the options that would apply to all and note possible options for you. > > Facilities: > > Location, we have installed MOCVD reactors in non-clean room areas where the reactors had a load lock. If the system you are looking at has a load lock you might want to consider saving your expensive cleanroom square footage for a tool that requires it. One note here, most reactors that utilize a load lock (whether in a clean room or not) require 5% (H2) forming gas to condition the load lock. Another key consideration is structure, these units take up a lot of floor space and are heavy, make sure your structure is rated to handle the weight, and plan ahead on how you are going to get it from your loading dock to its final destination. > Exhaust, the reactor will require some significant exhaust, make sure your clean room (or other if not in a cleanroom) make-up air handler is ready to make up the air that will be exhausted. Another major concern for exhaust is, the type rating on the exhaust. Not knowing the requirements from your EH&S department, it would be a good idea to review with them the gases you will be using on the tool as well as well as the contents of the process pump effluent, and whether or not you will be scrubbing your process exhaust. > H2 Supply, you will need a large source of Hydrogen to operate this tool, and the higher the quality the better. If your campus has house Hydrogen or a bulk source for it, your one step in the right direction. We had one customer (University) who tried running their reactor on a switch over panel with a four cylinder manifold on each side of the switch over, this type of setup caused them more problems and equipment repairs than if they had just invested in a bulk source of Hydrogen. > Power, most reactors such as this will require quite a bit of power, typically 250 to 400 amps of 208V 3 phase power. One major consideration, if your reactor is purifying the Hydrogen with an older style Palladium cell, you also might want to consider a UPS system for running the heaters for the Palladium cell, on the older style ones, if they cool off too fast they can crack the Palladium inside them and render them completely useless (and they aren?t cheap to replace ~ 50k). The newer Palladium cells are a little more robust and can withstand more abuse. One other note, typically the process pumps on these type of reactors run 24X7 due to the fact that they quickly seize up when shut down and allowed to cool, so be prepared for that also (process pumps for reactors are not cheap either). > Process Cooling water, MOCVD reactors require quite a bit of process cooling water, if your facility has a good house PCW system then you are probably ok, typical flow-rates are around 60 to 100 LPM at 17-25 degrees C depending on manufacturer and reactor size. > Process Gas Delivery, without knowing what type of material you will be growing (III-V, II-VI, IV, IV-V-VI, semiconductors) I can?t say what type of gas you will be using, but regardless of the type of semiconductor, you will be installing some toxic gas systems to support them. These gases will be required to be in gas cabinets with high quality purge panels, the gas cabinets will require building exhaust also, the gas delivery lines will have to be high quality electro-polished stainless steel, some gas types will also be required to be coaxial style gas lines, the assembly method for gas lines are required to be welded throughout. Again, I would review all required gases with your EH&S department to ensure you have the proper equipment to support them. > Life Safety, you will be required to incorporate life safety systems to monitor all spaces (gas cabinets, reactor, and people space) for the presence of flammable gas, toxic gas (dependent on material type) and Oxygen deficient atm. > Process Exhaust, if you are going to be using scrubbers (typically activated charcoal bed type), you will need a good maintenance program to stay on top of the scrubber maintenance, these units require regeneration and periodic charcoal changes. If you will not be using process exhaust scrubbers, then you need to make sure your process exhaust effluent is compatible with the building exhaust system you will be connecting it to. Also, depending the material type grown your process exhaust lines may be required to be heated to prevent buildup of process byproducts. > > Operation: > > Maintenance, as far as operation goes with these systems they do require periodic maintenance which correlates to run time as with most semiconductor processing equipment. Without a good understanding of the material type you will be growing it would be futile to mention different maintenance routines and what is required. I will say this much, if the required maintenance is not performed when it is supposed to be done, it can cause process deviations, equipment failures, and possible life safety issues. Some reactor processes require acid based cleaning of components on the reactor chamber, you may need a wet bench to support this or a bench available for cleaning. > Analytical tools, depending on the film type grown, you will need to the proper analytical tools to measure the specific characteristics of the film type that you are quantifying. > Waste Stream, again, depending on the type of material grown you will develop a waste stream that will need to be managed. > > Those are the major thoughts when considering a MOCVD reactor, we have helped many different customers achieve a cost effective solution with regards to installation and startup of these systems, so don?t let all the details scare you. We would be happy discuss any questions or concerns that you might have. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions or concerns. > > Thank you, > > Craig Cheney > > > > Desk: (608)834-4200 > Fax: (608)834-4299 > Cell: (608)438-8714 > > This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. > > From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45 AM > To: > Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems > > var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } > Hi there! We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. > > See everyone at UGIM 2014! > > Cheers! > > Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. > > MNTC Cleanroom Manager > > University of Louisville > > 2210 South Brook Street > > Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 > > Louisville, KY 40292 > > > > (502) 852-1572 > > http://louisville.edu/micronano/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ccheney at infinityhps.com Wed Sep 11 10:47:48 2013 From: ccheney at infinityhps.com (Craig Cheney) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:47:48 -0500 Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems In-Reply-To: References: <030701ceae69$3f16a1d0$bd43e570$@infinityhps.com> Message-ID: <4FD68A77-AE7F-475D-86B2-34686CA1C39A@infinityhps.com> In a hurry, I just realized I miss spelled the name of the H2 generator, it's Hogen and is made by http://www.protononsite.com/. Thanks Craig Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Craig Cheney wrote: > Julia, > > Another option that I neglected to mention for your H2 source is an H2 generator. Hogan has different models that would work great for you. You would need a reliable DI water source for this, but there are many advantages with a system like this. Let me know if you have any other questions. > > Craig > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Aebersold,Julia W." wrote: > >> >> Mnay thanx Craig for the in depth information and will add this to our considerations. The intent of this tool is for GaN growth. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. >> >> MNTC Cleanroom Manager >> >> University of Louisville >> >> 2210 South Brook Street >> >> Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 >> >> Louisville, KY 40292 >> >> >> >> (502) 852-1572 >> >> http://louisville.edu/micronano/ >> From: Craig Cheney [ccheney at infinityhps.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:03 PM >> To: Aebersold,Julia W.; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu >> Cc: ccheney at infinityhps.com; bfisher at infinityhps.com >> Subject: RE: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems >> >> Julia, >> >> We have installed quite a few MOCVD reactors at different Universities and production facilities in different settings. There are many nuances to installing and operating a MOCVD reactor. With so many different details to discuss I will list the major ones in order of importance. Without knowing what type of material you will be growing I will list the options that would apply to all and note possible options for you. >> >> Facilities: >> >> Location, we have installed MOCVD reactors in non-clean room areas where the reactors had a load lock. If the system you are looking at has a load lock you might want to consider saving your expensive cleanroom square footage for a tool that requires it. One note here, most reactors that utilize a load lock (whether in a clean room or not) require 5% (H2) forming gas to condition the load lock. Another key consideration is structure, these units take up a lot of floor space and are heavy, make sure your structure is rated to handle the weight, and plan ahead on how you are going to get it from your loading dock to its final destination. >> Exhaust, the reactor will require some significant exhaust, make sure your clean room (or other if not in a cleanroom) make-up air handler is ready to make up the air that will be exhausted. Another major concern for exhaust is, the type rating on the exhaust. Not knowing the requirements from your EH&S department, it would be a good idea to review with them the gases you will be using on the tool as well as well as the contents of the process pump effluent, and whether or not you will be scrubbing your process exhaust. >> H2 Supply, you will need a large source of Hydrogen to operate this tool, and the higher the quality the better. If your campus has house Hydrogen or a bulk source for it, your one step in the right direction. We had one customer (University) who tried running their reactor on a switch over panel with a four cylinder manifold on each side of the switch over, this type of setup caused them more problems and equipment repairs than if they had just invested in a bulk source of Hydrogen. >> Power, most reactors such as this will require quite a bit of power, typically 250 to 400 amps of 208V 3 phase power. One major consideration, if your reactor is purifying the Hydrogen with an older style Palladium cell, you also might want to consider a UPS system for running the heaters for the Palladium cell, on the older style ones, if they cool off too fast they can crack the Palladium inside them and render them completely useless (and they aren?t cheap to replace ~ 50k). The newer Palladium cells are a little more robust and can withstand more abuse. One other note, typically the process pumps on these type of reactors run 24X7 due to the fact that they quickly seize up when shut down and allowed to cool, so be prepared for that also (process pumps for reactors are not cheap either). >> Process Cooling water, MOCVD reactors require quite a bit of process cooling water, if your facility has a good house PCW system then you are probably ok, typical flow-rates are around 60 to 100 LPM at 17-25 degrees C depending on manufacturer and reactor size. >> Process Gas Delivery, without knowing what type of material you will be growing (III-V, II-VI, IV, IV-V-VI, semiconductors) I can?t say what type of gas you will be using, but regardless of the type of semiconductor, you will be installing some toxic gas systems to support them. These gases will be required to be in gas cabinets with high quality purge panels, the gas cabinets will require building exhaust also, the gas delivery lines will have to be high quality electro-polished stainless steel, some gas types will also be required to be coaxial style gas lines, the assembly method for gas lines are required to be welded throughout. Again, I would review all required gases with your EH&S department to ensure you have the proper equipment to support them. >> Life Safety, you will be required to incorporate life safety systems to monitor all spaces (gas cabinets, reactor, and people space) for the presence of flammable gas, toxic gas (dependent on material type) and Oxygen deficient atm. >> Process Exhaust, if you are going to be using scrubbers (typically activated charcoal bed type), you will need a good maintenance program to stay on top of the scrubber maintenance, these units require regeneration and periodic charcoal changes. If you will not be using process exhaust scrubbers, then you need to make sure your process exhaust effluent is compatible with the building exhaust system you will be connecting it to. Also, depending the material type grown your process exhaust lines may be required to be heated to prevent buildup of process byproducts. >> >> Operation: >> >> Maintenance, as far as operation goes with these systems they do require periodic maintenance which correlates to run time as with most semiconductor processing equipment. Without a good understanding of the material type you will be growing it would be futile to mention different maintenance routines and what is required. I will say this much, if the required maintenance is not performed when it is supposed to be done, it can cause process deviations, equipment failures, and possible life safety issues. Some reactor processes require acid based cleaning of components on the reactor chamber, you may need a wet bench to support this or a bench available for cleaning. >> Analytical tools, depending on the film type grown, you will need to the proper analytical tools to measure the specific characteristics of the film type that you are quantifying. >> Waste Stream, again, depending on the type of material grown you will develop a waste stream that will need to be managed. >> >> Those are the major thoughts when considering a MOCVD reactor, we have helped many different customers achieve a cost effective solution with regards to installation and startup of these systems, so don?t let all the details scare you. We would be happy discuss any questions or concerns that you might have. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions or concerns. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Craig Cheney >> >> >> >> Desk: (608)834-4200 >> Fax: (608)834-4299 >> Cell: (608)438-8714 >> >> This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. >> >> From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. >> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45 AM >> To: >> Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems >> >> var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } >> Hi there! We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. >> >> See everyone at UGIM 2014! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. >> >> MNTC Cleanroom Manager >> >> University of Louisville >> >> 2210 South Brook Street >> >> Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 >> >> Louisville, KY 40292 >> >> >> >> (502) 852-1572 >> >> http://louisville.edu/micronano/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tbritton at criticalsystemsinc.com Thu Sep 12 01:08:50 2013 From: tbritton at criticalsystemsinc.com (Tom Britton) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 05:08:50 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems In-Reply-To: <4FD68A77-AE7F-475D-86B2-34686CA1C39A@infinityhps.com> References: <030701ceae69$3f16a1d0$bd43e570$@infinityhps.com> <4FD68A77-AE7F-475D-86B2-34686CA1C39A@infinityhps.com> Message-ID: <9820889A26AAC34EBEB01D62DFCEEB2E0102219E@P3PWEX2MB006.ex2.secureserver.net> I'll echo Craig on the H2 generator from Proton. We've provided several and they are great. The only downside is they get very expensive if you have a lot of H2 that is needed. We provided a 300 sccm unit that was around $12K. They shoot up over $50K pretty quick and over $100K can be common for flows greater than 10 SLPM. You'll need a purifier downstream of it as they use compression fittings inside the unit, and transition to a VCR via a MNPT connection. All that being said, the unit is fantastic and has little maintenance required. I have a manual on it if you want to see it. Take care, Tom Britton Director of Sales Critical Systems, Inc. Direct: 208-890-1417 Office: 877-572-5515 www.CriticalSystemsInc.com [logo for email signature png] From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Craig Cheney Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:48 AM To: Aebersold,Julia W. Cc: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; bfisher at infinityhps.com Subject: Re: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems In a hurry, I just realized I miss spelled the name of the H2 generator, it's Hogen and is made by http://www.protononsite.com/. Thanks Craig Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Craig Cheney > wrote: Julia, Another option that I neglected to mention for your H2 source is an H2 generator. Hogan has different models that would work great for you. You would need a reliable DI water source for this, but there are many advantages with a system like this. Let me know if you have any other questions. Craig Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Aebersold,Julia W." > wrote: var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } Mnay thanx Craig for the in depth information and will add this to our considerations. The intent of this tool is for GaN growth. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. MNTC Cleanroom Manager University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Craig Cheney [ccheney at infinityhps.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:03 PM To: Aebersold,Julia W.; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Cc: ccheney at infinityhps.com; bfisher at infinityhps.com Subject: RE: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems Julia, We have installed quite a few MOCVD reactors at different Universities and production facilities in different settings. There are many nuances to installing and operating a MOCVD reactor. With so many different details to discuss I will list the major ones in order of importance. Without knowing what type of material you will be growing I will list the options that would apply to all and note possible options for you. Facilities: Location, we have installed MOCVD reactors in non-clean room areas where the reactors had a load lock. If the system you are looking at has a load lock you might want to consider saving your expensive cleanroom square footage for a tool that requires it. One note here, most reactors that utilize a load lock (whether in a clean room or not) require 5% (H2) forming gas to condition the load lock. Another key consideration is structure, these units take up a lot of floor space and are heavy, make sure your structure is rated to handle the weight, and plan ahead on how you are going to get it from your loading dock to its final destination. Exhaust, the reactor will require some significant exhaust, make sure your clean room (or other if not in a cleanroom) make-up air handler is ready to make up the air that will be exhausted. Another major concern for exhaust is, the type rating on the exhaust. Not knowing the requirements from your EH&S department, it would be a good idea to review with them the gases you will be using on the tool as well as well as the contents of the process pump effluent, and whether or not you will be scrubbing your process exhaust. H2 Supply, you will need a large source of Hydrogen to operate this tool, and the higher the quality the better. If your campus has house Hydrogen or a bulk source for it, your one step in the right direction. We had one customer (University) who tried running their reactor on a switch over panel with a four cylinder manifold on each side of the switch over, this type of setup caused them more problems and equipment repairs than if they had just invested in a bulk source of Hydrogen. Power, most reactors such as this will require quite a bit of power, typically 250 to 400 amps of 208V 3 phase power. One major consideration, if your reactor is purifying the Hydrogen with an older style Palladium cell, you also might want to consider a UPS system for running the heaters for the Palladium cell, on the older style ones, if they cool off too fast they can crack the Palladium inside them and render them completely useless (and they aren?t cheap to replace ~ 50k). The newer Palladium cells are a little more robust and can withstand more abuse. One other note, typically the process pumps on these type of reactors run 24X7 due to the fact that they quickly seize up when shut down and allowed to cool, so be prepared for that also (process pumps for reactors are not cheap either). Process Cooling water, MOCVD reactors require quite a bit of process cooling water, if your facility has a good house PCW system then you are probably ok, typical flow-rates are around 60 to 100 LPM at 17-25 degrees C depending on manufacturer and reactor size. Process Gas Delivery, without knowing what type of material you will be growing (III-V, II-VI, IV, IV-V-VI, semiconductors) I can?t say what type of gas you will be using, but regardless of the type of semiconductor, you will be installing some toxic gas systems to support them. These gases will be required to be in gas cabinets with high quality purge panels, the gas cabinets will require building exhaust also, the gas delivery lines will have to be high quality electro-polished stainless steel, some gas types will also be required to be coaxial style gas lines, the assembly method for gas lines are required to be welded throughout. Again, I would review all required gases with your EH&S department to ensure you have the proper equipment to support them. Life Safety, you will be required to incorporate life safety systems to monitor all spaces (gas cabinets, reactor, and people space) for the presence of flammable gas, toxic gas (dependent on material type) and Oxygen deficient atm. Process Exhaust, if you are going to be using scrubbers (typically activated charcoal bed type), you will need a good maintenance program to stay on top of the scrubber maintenance, these units require regeneration and periodic charcoal changes. If you will not be using process exhaust scrubbers, then you need to make sure your process exhaust effluent is compatible with the building exhaust system you will be connecting it to. Also, depending the material type grown your process exhaust lines may be required to be heated to prevent buildup of process byproducts. Operation: Maintenance, as far as operation goes with these systems they do require periodic maintenance which correlates to run time as with most semiconductor processing equipment. Without a good understanding of the material type you will be growing it would be futile to mention different maintenance routines and what is required. I will say this much, if the required maintenance is not performed when it is supposed to be done, it can cause process deviations, equipment failures, and possible life safety issues. Some reactor processes require acid based cleaning of components on the reactor chamber, you may need a wet bench to support this or a bench available for cleaning. Analytical tools, depending on the film type grown, you will need to the proper analytical tools to measure the specific characteristics of the film type that you are quantifying. Waste Stream, again, depending on the type of material grown you will develop a waste stream that will need to be managed. Those are the major thoughts when considering a MOCVD reactor, we have helped many different customers achieve a cost effective solution with regards to installation and startup of these systems, so don?t let all the details scare you. We would be happy discuss any questions or concerns that you might have. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions or concerns. Thank you, Craig Cheney Desk: (608)834-4200 Fax: (608)834-4299 Cell: (608)438-8714 This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45 AM To: > Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } Hi there! We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. See everyone at UGIM 2014! Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. MNTC Cleanroom Manager University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 9501 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From dgrimard at umich.edu Thu Sep 12 08:23:37 2013 From: dgrimard at umich.edu (Dennis Grimard) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:23:37 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems In-Reply-To: <4FD68A77-AE7F-475D-86B2-34686CA1C39A@infinityhps.com> References: <030701ceae69$3f16a1d0$bd43e570$@infinityhps.com> <4FD68A77-AE7F-475D-86B2-34686CA1C39A@infinityhps.com> Message-ID: Julia: I am by no means an expert in MOCVD technology, but we have one here at UM and I can share with you our experiences ... maybe they are relevant maybe not. In addition to Craig's comments I would add that there are many safety implication to installing, maintaining, and operating an MOCVD. In particular is the precursors you will be using. They are pyrophoric liquids and must be treated with extreme care. They are extremely water reactive so you must consider the fire suppression system you will be using and the local type of fire extinguisher you will need. Since there is always a possibility for fire, proper PPE such as Nomex clothing must be considered. Chamber maintenance is also something that must be considered since the chamber will, typically, be reactive upon opening to atmosphere (depends on what the chamber is being used for but the possibility is there). Also, when the precursors burn they make, mostly, oxides of metals which can be very toxic to inhalation so very good exhaust is needed in the blubber area should there be a release of the precursor into the (I assume) exhausted enclosure. Also, since the by products of the burn are particles (mostly) detection should be in the form of IR sensors rather than, say, a hydrogen detector. Lastly, many of the dopants (AH3, PH3, SiH4) are extremely dangerous in and of themselves and require special precautions in addition to the pyrophoric liquids. I suggest you also google MOCVD fires ... to see just how devastating an MOCVD fire can be. I can't find it in my records but there was one fire that destroyed an entire building. Of course all these precautions depend on what material you are depositing, but what may happen is that what you start out with is not what the tool transforms into. That is, the tools are very versatile and so you may start out with GaN and end up with other films which have very different properties and safety needs and dopant requirements. I hope this helps ... and good luck ... On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Craig Cheney wrote: > In a hurry, I just realized I miss spelled the name of the H2 generator, > it's Hogen and is made by > http://www.protononsite.com/. > > Thanks > > Craig > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Craig Cheney wrote: > > Julia, > > Another option that I neglected to mention for your H2 source is an H2 > generator. Hogan has different models that would work great for you. You > would need a reliable DI water source for this, but there are many > advantages with a system like this. Let me know if you have any other > questions. > > Craig > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Aebersold,Julia W." < > julia.aebersold at louisville.edu> wrote: > > **var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; > window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) > {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return > _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return > WAX.getElement(i); }** > Mnay thanx Craig for the in depth information and will add this to our > considerations. The intent of this tool is for GaN growth. > > Cheers! > > Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. > > MNTC Cleanroom Manager > > University of Louisville > > 2210 South Brook Street > > Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 > > Louisville, KY 40292 > > > > (502) 852-1572 > > http://louisville.edu/micronano/ > ------------------------------ > *From:* Craig Cheney [ccheney at infinityhps.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:03 PM > *To:* Aebersold,Julia W.; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > *Cc:* ccheney at infinityhps.com; bfisher at infinityhps.com > *Subject:* RE: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems > > Julia, > > > > We have installed quite a few MOCVD reactors at different Universities > and production facilities in different settings. There are many nuances to > installing and operating a MOCVD reactor. With so many different details > to discuss I will list the major ones in order of importance. Without > knowing what type of material you will be growing I will list the options > that would apply to all and note possible options for you. > > > > *Facilities:* > > > > *Location*, we have installed MOCVD reactors in non-clean room areas > where the reactors had a load lock. If the system you are looking at has a > load lock you might want to consider saving your expensive cleanroom square > footage for a tool that requires it. One note here, most reactors that > utilize a load lock (whether in a clean room or not) require 5% (H2) > forming gas to condition the load lock. Another key consideration is > structure, these units take up a lot of floor space and are heavy, make > sure your structure is rated to handle the weight, and plan ahead on how > you are going to get it from your loading dock to its final destination. > > *Exhaust*, the reactor will require some significant exhaust, make sure > your clean room (or other if not in a cleanroom) make-up air handler is > ready to make up the air that will be exhausted. Another major concern for > exhaust is, the type rating on the exhaust. Not knowing the requirements > from your EH&S department, it would be a good idea to review with them the > gases you will be using on the tool as well as well as the contents of the > process pump effluent, and whether or not you will be scrubbing your > process exhaust. > > *H2 Supply*, you will need a large source of Hydrogen to operate this > tool, and the higher the quality the better. If your campus has house > Hydrogen or a bulk source for it, your one step in the right direction. We > had one customer (University) who tried running their reactor on a switch > over panel with a four cylinder manifold on each side of the switch over, > this type of setup caused them more problems and equipment repairs than if > they had just invested in a bulk source of Hydrogen. > > *Power*, most reactors such as this will require quite a bit of power, > typically 250 to 400 amps of 208V 3 phase power. One major consideration, > if your reactor is purifying the Hydrogen with an older style Palladium > cell, you also might want to consider a UPS system for running the heaters > for the Palladium cell, on the older style ones, if they cool off too fast > they can crack the Palladium inside them and render them completely useless > (and they aren?t cheap to replace ~ 50k). The newer Palladium cells are a > little more robust and can withstand more abuse. One other note, typically > the process pumps on these type of reactors run 24X7 due to the fact that > they quickly seize up when shut down and allowed to cool, so be prepared > for that also (process pumps for reactors are not cheap either). > > *Process Cooling water*, MOCVD reactors require quite a bit of process > cooling water, if your facility has a good house PCW system then you are > probably ok, typical flow-rates are around 60 to 100 LPM at 17-25 degrees > C depending on manufacturer and reactor size. > > *Process Gas Delivery*, without knowing what type of material you will be > growing (III-V, II-VI, IV, IV-V-VI, semiconductors) I can?t say what type > of gas you will be using, but regardless of the type of semiconductor, you > will be installing some toxic gas systems to support them. These gases > will be required to be in gas cabinets with high quality purge panels, the > gas cabinets will require building exhaust also, the gas delivery lines > will have to be high quality electro-polished stainless steel, some gas > types will also be required to be coaxial style gas lines, the assembly > method for gas lines are required to be welded throughout. Again, I would > review all required gases with your EH&S department to ensure you have the > proper equipment to support them. > > *Life Safety*, you will be required to incorporate life safety systems to > monitor all spaces (gas cabinets, reactor, and people space) for the > presence of flammable gas, toxic gas (dependent on material type) and > Oxygen deficient atm. > > *Process Exhaust*, if you are going to be using scrubbers (typically > activated charcoal bed type), you will need a good maintenance program to > stay on top of the scrubber maintenance, these units require regeneration > and periodic charcoal changes. If you will not be using process exhaust > scrubbers, then you need to make sure your process exhaust effluent is > compatible with the building exhaust system you will be connecting it to. > Also, depending the material type grown your process exhaust lines may be > required to be heated to prevent buildup of process byproducts. > > > > *Operation:* > > > > *Maintenance*, as far as operation goes with these systems they do > require periodic maintenance which correlates to run time as with most > semiconductor processing equipment. Without a good understanding of the > material type you will be growing it would be futile to mention different > maintenance routines and what is required. I will say this much, if the > required maintenance is not performed when it is supposed to be done, it > can cause process deviations, equipment failures, and possible life safety > issues. Some reactor processes require acid based cleaning of components > on the reactor chamber, you may need a wet bench to support this or a bench > available for cleaning. > > *Analytical tools*, depending on the film type grown, you will need to > the proper analytical tools to measure the specific characteristics of the > film type that you are quantifying. > > *Waste Stream*, again, depending on the type of material grown you will > develop a waste stream that will need to be managed. > > > > Those are the major thoughts when considering a MOCVD reactor, we have > helped many different customers achieve a cost effective solution with > regards to installation and startup of these systems, so don?t let all the > details scare you. We would be happy discuss any questions or concerns > that you might have. Please feel free to contact us with any other > questions or concerns. > > > > Thank you, > > > > *Craig Cheney* > > > > > > > > *Desk: (608)834-4200* > > *Fax: (608)834-4299* > > *Cell: (608)438-8714* > > * * > > *This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may > contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the > intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, > distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you > received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately > by replying to this message and delete it from your computer.* > > > > *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [ > mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu ] *On > Behalf Of *Aebersold,Julia W. > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45 AM > *To:* > *Subject:* [labnetwork] MOCVD systems > > > > var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; > window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) > {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return > _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return > WAX.getElement(i); } > > Hi there! We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD > system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of > tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type > in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have > any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, > maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. > > > > See everyone at UGIM 2014! > > > > Cheers! > > > > Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. > > MNTC Cleanroom Manager > > University of Louisville > > 2210 South Brook Street > > Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 > > Louisville, KY 40292 > > > > (502) 852-1572 > > http://louisville.edu/micronano/ > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork > > -- Dennis S Grimard, Ph.D Managing Director, Lurie Nanofabrication Facility University of Michigan 1246D EECS Building 1301 Beal Avenue Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2122 (734) 368-7172 (Cell) (734) 647-1781 (Fax) http://www.lnf.umich.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julia.aebersold at louisville.edu Thu Sep 12 10:10:31 2013 From: julia.aebersold at louisville.edu (Aebersold,Julia W.) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:10:31 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems In-Reply-To: References: <030701ceae69$3f16a1d0$bd43e570$@infinityhps.com> <4FD68A77-AE7F-475D-86B2-34686CA1C39A@infinityhps.com>, Message-ID: Thank you very much Dennis. The items you mentions are key safety items we will need to address when putting a system like this in our cleanroom. We won't be tackling the installation alone and most likely will have a consultant/vendor direct us on safety concerns and installation. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. MNTC Cleanroom Manager University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Dennis Grimard [dgrimard at umich.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:23 AM To: Craig Cheney Cc: Aebersold,Julia W.; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; bfisher at infinityhps.com Subject: Re: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems Julia: I am by no means an expert in MOCVD technology, but we have one here at UM and I can share with you our experiences ... maybe they are relevant maybe not. In addition to Craig's comments I would add that there are many safety implication to installing, maintaining, and operating an MOCVD. In particular is the precursors you will be using. They are pyrophoric liquids and must be treated with extreme care. They are extremely water reactive so you must consider the fire suppression system you will be using and the local type of fire extinguisher you will need. Since there is always a possibility for fire, proper PPE such as Nomex clothing must be considered. Chamber maintenance is also something that must be considered since the chamber will, typically, be reactive upon opening to atmosphere (depends on what the chamber is being used for but the possibility is there). Also, when the precursors burn they make, mostly, oxides of metals which can be very toxic to inhalation so very good exhaust is needed in the blubber area should there be a release of the precursor into the (I assume) exhausted enclosure. Also, since the by products of the burn are particles (mostly) detection should be in the form of IR sensors rather than, say, a hydrogen detector. Lastly, many of the dopants (AH3, PH3, SiH4) are extremely dangerous in and of themselves and require special precautions in addition to the pyrophoric liquids. I suggest you also google MOCVD fires ... to see just how devastating an MOCVD fire can be. I can't find it in my records but there was one fire that destroyed an entire building. Of course all these precautions depend on what material you are depositing, but what may happen is that what you start out with is not what the tool transforms into. That is, the tools are very versatile and so you may start out with GaN and end up with other films which have very different properties and safety needs and dopant requirements. I hope this helps ... and good luck ... On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Craig Cheney > wrote: In a hurry, I just realized I miss spelled the name of the H2 generator, it's Hogen and is made by http://www.protononsite.com/. Thanks Craig Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Craig Cheney > wrote: Julia, Another option that I neglected to mention for your H2 source is an H2 generator. Hogan has different models that would work great for you. You would need a reliable DI water source for this, but there are many advantages with a system like this. Let me know if you have any other questions. Craig Sent from my iPad On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Aebersold,Julia W." > wrote: var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } Mnay thanx Craig for the in depth information and will add this to our considerations. The intent of this tool is for GaN growth. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. MNTC Cleanroom Manager University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Craig Cheney [ccheney at infinityhps.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:03 PM To: Aebersold,Julia W.; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Cc: ccheney at infinityhps.com; bfisher at infinityhps.com Subject: RE: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems Julia, We have installed quite a few MOCVD reactors at different Universities and production facilities in different settings. There are many nuances to installing and operating a MOCVD reactor. With so many different details to discuss I will list the major ones in order of importance. Without knowing what type of material you will be growing I will list the options that would apply to all and note possible options for you. Facilities: Location, we have installed MOCVD reactors in non-clean room areas where the reactors had a load lock. If the system you are looking at has a load lock you might want to consider saving your expensive cleanroom square footage for a tool that requires it. One note here, most reactors that utilize a load lock (whether in a clean room or not) require 5% (H2) forming gas to condition the load lock. Another key consideration is structure, these units take up a lot of floor space and are heavy, make sure your structure is rated to handle the weight, and plan ahead on how you are going to get it from your loading dock to its final destination. Exhaust, the reactor will require some significant exhaust, make sure your clean room (or other if not in a cleanroom) make-up air handler is ready to make up the air that will be exhausted. Another major concern for exhaust is, the type rating on the exhaust. Not knowing the requirements from your EH&S department, it would be a good idea to review with them the gases you will be using on the tool as well as well as the contents of the process pump effluent, and whether or not you will be scrubbing your process exhaust. H2 Supply, you will need a large source of Hydrogen to operate this tool, and the higher the quality the better. If your campus has house Hydrogen or a bulk source for it, your one step in the right direction. We had one customer (University) who tried running their reactor on a switch over panel with a four cylinder manifold on each side of the switch over, this type of setup caused them more problems and equipment repairs than if they had just invested in a bulk source of Hydrogen. Power, most reactors such as this will require quite a bit of power, typically 250 to 400 amps of 208V 3 phase power. One major consideration, if your reactor is purifying the Hydrogen with an older style Palladium cell, you also might want to consider a UPS system for running the heaters for the Palladium cell, on the older style ones, if they cool off too fast they can crack the Palladium inside them and render them completely useless (and they aren?t cheap to replace ~ 50k). The newer Palladium cells are a little more robust and can withstand more abuse. One other note, typically the process pumps on these type of reactors run 24X7 due to the fact that they quickly seize up when shut down and allowed to cool, so be prepared for that also (process pumps for reactors are not cheap either). Process Cooling water, MOCVD reactors require quite a bit of process cooling water, if your facility has a good house PCW system then you are probably ok, typical flow-rates are around 60 to 100 LPM at 17-25 degrees C depending on manufacturer and reactor size. Process Gas Delivery, without knowing what type of material you will be growing (III-V, II-VI, IV, IV-V-VI, semiconductors) I can?t say what type of gas you will be using, but regardless of the type of semiconductor, you will be installing some toxic gas systems to support them. These gases will be required to be in gas cabinets with high quality purge panels, the gas cabinets will require building exhaust also, the gas delivery lines will have to be high quality electro-polished stainless steel, some gas types will also be required to be coaxial style gas lines, the assembly method for gas lines are required to be welded throughout. Again, I would review all required gases with your EH&S department to ensure you have the proper equipment to support them. Life Safety, you will be required to incorporate life safety systems to monitor all spaces (gas cabinets, reactor, and people space) for the presence of flammable gas, toxic gas (dependent on material type) and Oxygen deficient atm. Process Exhaust, if you are going to be using scrubbers (typically activated charcoal bed type), you will need a good maintenance program to stay on top of the scrubber maintenance, these units require regeneration and periodic charcoal changes. If you will not be using process exhaust scrubbers, then you need to make sure your process exhaust effluent is compatible with the building exhaust system you will be connecting it to. Also, depending the material type grown your process exhaust lines may be required to be heated to prevent buildup of process byproducts. Operation: Maintenance, as far as operation goes with these systems they do require periodic maintenance which correlates to run time as with most semiconductor processing equipment. Without a good understanding of the material type you will be growing it would be futile to mention different maintenance routines and what is required. I will say this much, if the required maintenance is not performed when it is supposed to be done, it can cause process deviations, equipment failures, and possible life safety issues. Some reactor processes require acid based cleaning of components on the reactor chamber, you may need a wet bench to support this or a bench available for cleaning. Analytical tools, depending on the film type grown, you will need to the proper analytical tools to measure the specific characteristics of the film type that you are quantifying. Waste Stream, again, depending on the type of material grown you will develop a waste stream that will need to be managed. Those are the major thoughts when considering a MOCVD reactor, we have helped many different customers achieve a cost effective solution with regards to installation and startup of these systems, so don?t let all the details scare you. We would be happy discuss any questions or concerns that you might have. Please feel free to contact us with any other questions or concerns. Thank you, Craig Cheney Desk: (608)834-4200 Fax: (608)834-4299 Cell: (608)438-8714 This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:45 AM To: > Subject: [labnetwork] MOCVD systems var WAX = function () { var _arrInputs; window.addEventListener('waxSetArr', function(evt) {_arrInputs=evt.detail;}); return { getElement: function (i) { return _arrInputs[i]; } } }(); function waxGetElement(i) { return WAX.getElement(i); } Hi there! We are considering the installation of a Veeco E300 MOCVD system into our cleanroom. We have not had experience with this type of tool and would like to ask the community if they have a system of this type in their cleanroom or in another room due to its size. Also, if you have any other concerns about operations, nuances, difficulty of operation, maintenance headaches, etc. I would be greatly appreciative. See everyone at UGIM 2014! Cheers! 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They are being proposed to reduce the risk of toxic gases from the under-design toxics/pyrophorics bunker into the building air handlers. If anyone is using these or has considered using them I would very much like to hear your thoughts on the subject. Thanks a lot! Iulian -- iulian Codreanu, Ph.D. Director of Operations, UD NanoFab University of Delaware 149 Evans Hall Newark, DE 19716 302-831-2784 From roberthamilton at berkeley.edu Thu Sep 19 18:17:55 2013 From: roberthamilton at berkeley.edu (Bob Hamilton) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:17:55 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] Update on CDA in lieu of N2 purging of drypumps Message-ID: <523B7813.1050508@berkeley.edu> Lab Network Colleagues, In response to a labnetwork posting a few months ago, proposing the use of compressed dry air (CDA) in lieu of N2 for some drypump purging, the UC Berkeley NanoLab undertook a review of our dry-pumps. A total of 73 mechanical pumps are in use in the NanoLab. Thirty six or ~ 50% of these are drypumps which require N2 purge. The NanoLab nitrogen supply is derived from liquid nitrogen. The N2 resource is a major expense for our operation. A rough calculation shows our N2 cost to be ~$100/yr/slpm (bulk N2 costs plus cryogenic vessel support). Our average dry pumps consume ~35 slpm of N2 for purging (note: some vendor-designed purge circuits are process-driven meaning N2 is used at high flow rates only during process). Our first effort was to review CDA vs. N2 with our pump manufacturers and with our pump rebuilders. Both gave us positive reports about the use of CDA in some applications. For obvious reasons the 19 pumps used to pump flammables or pyrophoric gases were excluded from consideration. This left the pumps that support etchers, load-locks and high-vacuum systems. Following a review of the dewpoint of the NanoLab CDA (-75F or ~ 6.5 ppm H2O weight/volume) a decision was made to further exclude pumps that pumped the "acid gases" (more specifically Cl2, BF3, HBr, HCl, HF, SiCl4, etc.). While the NanoLab CDA dryer can produce air at dewpoints around -95F the dryer's shuttle-valve and check-valves must work significantly harder to achieve this value thus requiring more frequent maintenance and rebuilds. We have set our CDA standard at -75F. Eighteen 18 pumps were identified and converted to CDA-purge. Our initial results look good. A review of our N2 flow rates shows a saving of about 23%; average N2 flows decreased from 2200 slpm to 1700 slpm saving us ~$50k per annum. So far, we have seen no negatives from this change. Our decision remains open to future review. As a footnote, we've also decided to add 25 psi check valves to the 90 psi N2 supply for the pumps that remain on N2-purge. The reason for this is we've found dry pumps will pump their N2 supply to sub-ambient pressure if the N2 supply is inadvertently interrupted. In some cases this can have negative repercussions. On behalf of the NanoLab equipment staff, regards, Bob Hamilton -- Robert Hamilton University of California at Berkeley Marvell NanoLab Equipment Eng. Mgr. Room 520 Sutardja Dai Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-1754 bob at eecs.berkeley.edu Phone: 510-809-8600 Mobile: 510-325-7557 e-mail preferred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hathaway at cns.fas.harvard.edu Fri Sep 20 15:44:35 2013 From: hathaway at cns.fas.harvard.edu (Hathaway, Malcolm) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:44:35 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Update on CDA in lieu of N2 purging of drypumps In-Reply-To: <523B7813.1050508@berkeley.edu> References: <523B7813.1050508@berkeley.edu> Message-ID: Excellent data, sir. Thanks for reporting it back to the list. In the aggregate, I think this is going to save us a pile of money! Mac Hathaway Harvard CNS ________________________________ From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] on behalf of Bob Hamilton [roberthamilton at berkeley.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:17 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Update on CDA in lieu of N2 purging of drypumps Lab Network Colleagues, In response to a labnetwork posting a few months ago, proposing the use of compressed dry air (CDA) in lieu of N2 for some drypump purging, the UC Berkeley NanoLab undertook a review of our dry-pumps. A total of 73 mechanical pumps are in use in the NanoLab. Thirty six or ~ 50% of these are drypumps which require N2 purge. The NanoLab nitrogen supply is derived from liquid nitrogen. The N2 resource is a major expense for our operation. A rough calculation shows our N2 cost to be ~$100/yr/slpm (bulk N2 costs plus cryogenic vessel support). Our average dry pumps consume ~35 slpm of N2 for purging (note: some vendor-designed purge circuits are process-driven meaning N2 is used at high flow rates only during process). Our first effort was to review CDA vs. N2 with our pump manufacturers and with our pump rebuilders. Both gave us positive reports about the use of CDA in some applications. For obvious reasons the 19 pumps used to pump flammables or pyrophoric gases were excluded from consideration. This left the pumps that support etchers, load-locks and high-vacuum systems. Following a review of the dewpoint of the NanoLab CDA (-75F or ~ 6.5 ppm H2O weight/volume) a decision was made to further exclude pumps that pumped the ?acid gases? (more specifically Cl2, BF3, HBr, HCl, HF, SiCl4, etc.). While the NanoLab CDA dryer can produce air at dewpoints around -95F the dryer?s shuttle-valve and check-valves must work significantly harder to achieve this value thus requiring more frequent maintenance and rebuilds. We have set our CDA standard at -75F. Eighteen 18 pumps were identified and converted to CDA-purge. Our initial results look good. A review of our N2 flow rates shows a saving of about 23%; average N2 flows decreased from 2200 slpm to 1700 slpm saving us ~$50k per annum. So far, we have seen no negatives from this change. Our decision remains open to future review. As a footnote, we?ve also decided to add 25 psi check valves to the 90 psi N2 supply for the pumps that remain on N2-purge. The reason for this is we?ve found dry pumps will pump their N2 supply to sub-ambient pressure if the N2 supply is inadvertently interrupted. In some cases this can have negative repercussions. On behalf of the NanoLab equipment staff, regards, Bob Hamilton -- Robert Hamilton University of California at Berkeley Marvell NanoLab Equipment Eng. Mgr. 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We tried rolling of our cylinder for ~1hr (on the advice of our cylinder supplier) but had no better results. Thanks and regards, Savitha -- Dr.Savitha P Technology Manager National Nanofabrication Centre Centre for Nano Science and Engineering (CeNSE) Indian Institute of Science Bangalore - 560012 Ph: +91 80 2293 3254 www.cense.iisc.ernet.in -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From roberthamilton at berkeley.edu Mon Sep 23 14:13:22 2013 From: roberthamilton at berkeley.edu (Bob Hamilton) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:13:22 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] Diborane stability In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <524084C2.8090501@berkeley.edu> Savitha, The mix of diborane and Ar will not be as stable as B2H6 in H2 and higher order boranes will form faster. I regret I cannot share experience with such a mix. Voltaix, a manufacturer of hydride gases may be able to offer guidance: http://www.voltaix.com/ Having said this you may want to look at other possible issues. Mass flow controller have a a heated bypass sensor and this capillary bypass is subject to blockage if diborane is left within the mfc at the termination of a process. For this reason, when we used diborane we used an in and out isolation valve. We'd close the supply and then pump out the mfc so there was virtually no B2H6 in the mfc at idle. At the UC Berkeley NanoLab we are not currently using diborane as a dopant having obviated it for 1% BCl3/bal He in our LPCVD processes. We may be using it again in our epi process. The carrier gas in that case will be H2. Regards, Bob Hamilton On 9/23/2013 5:21 AM, Savitha P wrote: > Hi! > > We have diborane (2% in Ar carrier gas) connected to our APCVD furnace as > the source for boron doping. For the past one month we have not achieved > resistivity changes with any of our standard recipes. Our cylinder was > installed in 2011 and is kept at ~22-24 deg C. > > I have been reading some of the previous posts about the formation of > B4H10 particles which deposit out. Has anyone noticed this kind of > phenomena leading to only flushing of the carrier Argon gas. We tried > rolling of our cylinder for ~1hr (on the advice of our cylinder supplier) > but had no better results. > > Thanks and regards, > > Savitha > -- Robert Hamilton University of California at Berkeley Marvell NanoLab Equipment Eng. Mgr. Room 520 Sutardja Dai Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-1754 bob at eecs.berkeley.edu Phone: 510-809-8600 Mobile: 510-325-7557 e-mail preferred From schweig at umich.edu Mon Sep 23 14:56:35 2013 From: schweig at umich.edu (Dennis Schweiger) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:56:35 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] catastrophic release scrubbers Message-ID: Iulian, I figured everyone would want to see this response to your question as well. We looked at the catastrophic release scenario when we designed the expansion for our fab here at UofM, and by installing a restrictive flow orifice in the cylinder (0.010"), minimizing the fill quantity (short filling the cylinder to considerably less than a maximum), and maximizing the dilution at the tip of the exhaust fans (using Strobic fans), we were able to find a workable/acceptable solution. It would take a "huge" abatement system to handle what could essentially never happen. It made more sense to put our capital dollars into something that worked for everything (the additional exhaust dilution), and share that capacity across the entire fab. Take care, Dennis Schweiger University of Michigan/LNF 734.647.2055 Ofc "People can be divided into 3 groups - those that make things happen, those that watch things happen, and those that wonder what happened." Within which group do you belong? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Iulian Codreanu wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I am writing to ask for input on the use individual catastrophic release > scrubbers for gas cabinets. They are being proposed to reduce the risk of > toxic gases from the under-design toxics/pyrophorics bunker into the > building air handlers. > > If anyone is using these or has considered using them I would very much > like to hear your thoughts on the subject. > > Thanks a lot! > > Iulian > > -- > iulian Codreanu, Ph.D. > Director of Operations, UD NanoFab > University of Delaware > 149 Evans Hall > Newark, DE 19716 > 302-831-2784 > > > ______________________________**_________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://www-mtl.mit.edu/**mailman/listinfo.cgi/**labnetwork > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mheiden at engr.ucr.edu Mon Sep 23 18:49:19 2013 From: mheiden at engr.ucr.edu (Mark Heiden) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:49:19 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] catastrophic release scrubbers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003401ceb8af$235195e0$69f4c1a0$@engr.ucr.edu> Iulian, I agree with Dennis from UofM. The scenario that is called a "catastrophic release" with RFO's in place would require the cylinder to be dropped and the valve broken off or the stem damaged. This essentially can't take place in the confines of a gas cabinet but is much more likely to happen just outside the cabinet where a cylinder could fall. In this case a "catastrophic release" scrubber connected to the cabinet would do very little good since the release is not contained within the cabinet. We wasted a great deal of money and precious floor space on two of these units in our first cleanroom. A word of caution; you may also find it very hard to make any argument against a "safety" item once it has been suggested. Mark Heiden UC Riverside Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering NanoFab Cleanroom Manager (951) 827-2551 mheiden at engr.ucr.edu From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Schweiger Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:57 AM To: Iulian Codreanu Cc: Fab Network Subject: Re: [labnetwork] catastrophic release scrubbers Iulian, I figured everyone would want to see this response to your question as well. We looked at the catastrophic release scenario when we designed the expansion for our fab here at UofM, and by installing a restrictive flow orifice in the cylinder (0.010"), minimizing the fill quantity (short filling the cylinder to considerably less than a maximum), and maximizing the dilution at the tip of the exhaust fans (using Strobic fans), we were able to find a workable/acceptable solution. It would take a "huge" abatement system to handle what could essentially never happen. It made more sense to put our capital dollars into something that worked for everything (the additional exhaust dilution), and share that capacity across the entire fab. Take care, Dennis Schweiger University of Michigan/LNF 734.647.2055 Ofc "People can be divided into 3 groups - those that make things happen, those that watch things happen, and those that wonder what happened." Within which group do you belong? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Iulian Codreanu wrote: Dear Colleagues, I am writing to ask for input on the use individual catastrophic release scrubbers for gas cabinets. They are being proposed to reduce the risk of toxic gases from the under-design toxics/pyrophorics bunker into the building air handlers. If anyone is using these or has considered using them I would very much like to hear your thoughts on the subject. Thanks a lot! Iulian -- iulian Codreanu, Ph.D. Director of Operations, UD NanoFab University of Delaware 149 Evans Hall Newark, DE 19716 302-831-2784 _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgrimard at umich.edu Tue Sep 24 08:28:31 2013 From: dgrimard at umich.edu (Dennis Grimard) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:28:31 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] catastrophic release scrubbers In-Reply-To: <003401ceb8af$235195e0$69f4c1a0$@engr.ucr.edu> References: <003401ceb8af$235195e0$69f4c1a0$@engr.ucr.edu> Message-ID: Lulian: An additional point, some locations require the catastrophic abatement by code. You may need to restrict the amount of material you have to not be required to use the catastrophic abatement. On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Mark Heiden wrote: > Iulian, **** > > I agree with Dennis from UofM. The scenario that is called a ?catastrophic > release? with RFO?s in place would require the cylinder to be dropped and > the valve broken off or the stem damaged. This essentially can?t take place > in the confines of a gas cabinet but is much more likely to happen just > outside the cabinet where a cylinder could fall. In this case a > ?catastrophic release? scrubber connected to the cabinet would do very > little good since the release is not contained within the cabinet. We > wasted a great deal of money and precious floor space on two of these units > in our first cleanroom. A word of caution; you may also find it very hard > to make any argument against a ?safety? item once it has been suggested.** > ** > > ** ** > > **** > > Mark Heiden > UC Riverside > Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering > NanoFab Cleanroom Manager > (951) 827-2551 > mheiden at engr.ucr.edu **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto: > labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Schweiger > *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 11:57 AM > *To:* Iulian Codreanu > *Cc:* Fab Network > *Subject:* Re: [labnetwork] catastrophic release scrubbers**** > > ** ** > > Iulian,**** > > ** ** > > I figured everyone would want to see this response to your question as > well.**** > > ** ** > > We looked at the catastrophic release scenario when we designed the > expansion for our fab here at UofM, and by installing a restrictive flow > orifice in the cylinder (0.010"), minimizing the fill quantity (short > filling the cylinder to considerably less than a maximum), and maximizing > the dilution at the tip of the exhaust fans (using Strobic fans), we were > able to find a workable/acceptable solution. It would take a "huge" > abatement system to handle what could essentially never happen. It made > more sense to put our capital dollars into something that worked for > everything (the additional exhaust dilution), and share that capacity > across the entire fab.**** > > ** ** > > Take care,**** > > > **** > > Dennis Schweiger**** > > University of Michigan/LNF**** > > **** > > 734.647.2055 Ofc**** > > **** > > "People can be divided into 3 groups - those that make things happen, > those that watch things happen, and those that wonder what happened." > Within which group do you belong?**** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Iulian Codreanu > wrote:**** > > Dear Colleagues, > > I am writing to ask for input on the use individual catastrophic release > scrubbers for gas cabinets. They are being proposed to reduce the risk of > toxic gases from the under-design toxics/pyrophorics bunker into the > building air handlers. > > If anyone is using these or has considered using them I would very much > like to hear your thoughts on the subject. > > Thanks a lot! > > Iulian > > -- > iulian Codreanu, Ph.D. > Director of Operations, UD NanoFab > University of Delaware > 149 Evans Hall > Newark, DE 19716 > 302-831-2784 > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork > > -- Dennis S Grimard, Ph.D Managing Director, Lurie Nanofabrication Facility University of Michigan 1246D EECS Building 1301 Beal Avenue Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2122 (734) 368-7172 (Cell) (734) 647-1781 (Fax) http://www.lnf.umich.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tbritton at criticalsystemsinc.com Tue Sep 24 13:04:07 2013 From: tbritton at criticalsystemsinc.com (Tom Britton) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:04:07 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Diborane stability In-Reply-To: <524084C2.8090501@berkeley.edu> References: <524084C2.8090501@berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <9820889A26AAC34EBEB01D62DFCEEB2E01034EA9@P3PWEX2MB006.ex2.secureserver.net> Excellent information as usual Bob. We might be able to add on to this to help Savitha. Hi Savitha, In looking at your email, two things jump out at us as to what may be causing your issues. The first is the temperature you're operating at. If you'll reference the attached electronics bulletin from Air Products, you'll see a chart showing the effects of temperature on the decomposition rate of B2H6. In a production environment our staff kept their gas at 4?C. As you rise above this temperature, the number of usable days of the gas decreases. Now when diborane decomposes it forms hydrogen and boron hydrides. These boron hydrides are the contamination that clogs small orifices, shows up as particulate on your end product and causes regulator creep. Chill the bottle to 4?C and insulate the line and you should see an improvement. The second is the regulator in the gas cabinet. If you are not using a dual stage regulator, you should install one of these in place of the existing regulator. As diborane is so volatile, it has been well documented that the pressure drop in a single stage regulator creates a significant temperature change due to the Joule Thompson effect. By using a dual stage regulator you spread that pressure drop, and subsequent cooling change, over a wider area which reduces the amount of particulate contamination caused condensation at the pressure drop. See the attached paper by APTech on dual stage regulators. If you need the chiller jackets and controllers, we just got 20 of the Accurate Gas Heater/Chillers in from a large gas cabinet purchase we just made and he have most sizes of cylinder jackets available. The Heater/Chillers are $2,200 and the jackets run $2,000 to $3,000 depending on cylinder size. Good luck with your process! I hope this helps. Thank you! Tom Britton Director of Sales Critical Systems, Inc. Direct: 208-890-1417 Office: 877-572-5515 www.CriticalSystemsInc.com [cid:image001.png at 01CEB915.5F7073A0] -----Original Message----- From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Hamilton Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:13 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Diborane stability Savitha, The mix of diborane and Ar will not be as stable as B2H6 in H2 and higher order boranes will form faster. I regret I cannot share experience with such a mix. Voltaix, a manufacturer of hydride gases may be able to offer guidance: http://www.voltaix.com/ Having said this you may want to look at other possible issues. Mass flow controller have a a heated bypass sensor and this capillary bypass is subject to blockage if diborane is left within the mfc at the termination of a process. For this reason, when we used diborane we used an in and out isolation valve. We'd close the supply and then pump out the mfc so there was virtually no B2H6 in the mfc at idle. At the UC Berkeley NanoLab we are not currently using diborane as a dopant having obviated it for 1% BCl3/bal He in our LPCVD processes. We may be using it again in our epi process. The carrier gas in that case will be H2. Regards, Bob Hamilton On 9/23/2013 5:21 AM, Savitha P wrote: > Hi! > > We have diborane (2% in Ar carrier gas) connected to our APCVD furnace > as the source for boron doping. For the past one month we have not > achieved resistivity changes with any of our standard recipes. Our > cylinder was installed in 2011 and is kept at ~22-24 deg C. > > I have been reading some of the previous posts about the formation > of > B4H10 particles which deposit out. Has anyone noticed this kind of > phenomena leading to only flushing of the carrier Argon gas. We tried > rolling of our cylinder for ~1hr (on the advice of our cylinder > supplier) but had no better results. > > Thanks and regards, > > Savitha > -- Robert Hamilton University of California at Berkeley Marvell NanoLab Equipment Eng. Mgr. Room 520 Sutardja Dai Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-1754 bob at eecs.berkeley.edu Phone: 510-809-8600 Mobile: 510-325-7557 e-mail preferred _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Direct: 208-890-1417 Office: 877-572-5515 www.CriticalSystemsInc.com [logo for email signature png] From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Britton Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:04 AM To: Bob Hamilton; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Cc: treese at criticalsystemsinc.com Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Diborane stability Excellent information as usual Bob. We might be able to add on to this to help Savitha. Hi Savitha, In looking at your email, two things jump out at us as to what may be causing your issues. The first is the temperature you're operating at. If you'll reference the attached electronics bulletin from Air Products, you'll see a chart showing the effects of temperature on the decomposition rate of B2H6. In a production environment our staff kept their gas at 4?C. As you rise above this temperature, the number of usable days of the gas decreases. Now when diborane decomposes it forms hydrogen and boron hydrides. These boron hydrides are the contamination that clogs small orifices, shows up as particulate on your end product and causes regulator creep. Chill the bottle to 4?C and insulate the line and you should see an improvement. The second is the regulator in the gas cabinet. If you are not using a dual stage regulator, you should install one of these in place of the existing regulator. As diborane is so volatile, it has been well documented that the pressure drop in a single stage regulator creates a significant temperature change due to the Joule Thompson effect. By using a dual stage regulator you spread that pressure drop, and subsequent cooling change, over a wider area which reduces the amount of particulate contamination caused condensation at the pressure drop. See the attached paper by APTech on dual stage regulators. If you need the chiller jackets and controllers, we just got 20 of the Accurate Gas Heater/Chillers in from a large gas cabinet purchase we just made and he have most sizes of cylinder jackets available. The Heater/Chillers are $2,200 and the jackets run $2,000 to $3,000 depending on cylinder size. Good luck with your process! I hope this helps. Thank you! Tom Britton Director of Sales Critical Systems, Inc. Direct: 208-890-1417 Office: 877-572-5515 www.CriticalSystemsInc.com [cid:image001.png at 01CEB938.C0E7FFE0] -----Original Message----- From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Hamilton Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:13 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Diborane stability Savitha, The mix of diborane and Ar will not be as stable as B2H6 in H2 and higher order boranes will form faster. I regret I cannot share experience with such a mix. Voltaix, a manufacturer of hydride gases may be able to offer guidance: http://www.voltaix.com/ Having said this you may want to look at other possible issues. Mass flow controller have a a heated bypass sensor and this capillary bypass is subject to blockage if diborane is left within the mfc at the termination of a process. For this reason, when we used diborane we used an in and out isolation valve. We'd close the supply and then pump out the mfc so there was virtually no B2H6 in the mfc at idle. At the UC Berkeley NanoLab we are not currently using diborane as a dopant having obviated it for 1% BCl3/bal He in our LPCVD processes. We may be using it again in our epi process. The carrier gas in that case will be H2. Regards, Bob Hamilton On 9/23/2013 5:21 AM, Savitha P wrote: > Hi! > > We have diborane (2% in Ar carrier gas) connected to our APCVD furnace > as the source for boron doping. For the past one month we have not > achieved resistivity changes with any of our standard recipes. Our > cylinder was installed in 2011 and is kept at ~22-24 deg C. > > I have been reading some of the previous posts about the formation > of > B4H10 particles which deposit out. Has anyone noticed this kind of > phenomena leading to only flushing of the carrier Argon gas. We tried > rolling of our cylinder for ~1hr (on the advice of our cylinder > supplier) but had no better results. > > Thanks and regards, > > Savitha > -- Robert Hamilton University of California at Berkeley Marvell NanoLab Equipment Eng. Mgr. Room 520 Sutardja Dai Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-1754 bob at eecs.berkeley.edu Phone: 510-809-8600 Mobile: 510-325-7557 e-mail preferred _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The system will have a boat loader, > oxidation stack has Dry/Wet (torch) oxide and anneal with forming gas. > The LPCVD stack is Poly, Nitride and SiC. > > Do any of you have experience with any of these vendors, looking for > ease of use , maintenance and reliability. > > Thanks in advance. > > Thanks > > Rick > > Draper Laboratory > > Group Leader Microfabrication Operations > > 555 Technology Square > > Cambridge Ma, 02139-3563 > > www.draper.com > > rmorrison at draper.com > > W 617-258-3420 > > C 508-930-3461 > > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://www-mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork From mheiden at engr.ucr.edu Wed Sep 25 22:52:28 2013 From: mheiden at engr.ucr.edu (Mark Heiden) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:52:28 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] Under-Utilized Equipment Message-ID: <000301ceba63$70312280$50936780$@engr.ucr.edu> Has anyone or everyone had the experience of purchasing an expensive or high maintenance tool that a professor or user group HAD to have, only to watch it sit there with little or no usage? Maintenance bills piling up and no revenue to offset it? We ended up with a few under-utilize excellent tools that are available to users from other institutions in the event that they don't exist at their home labs. Here is our list: 6 inch 4-Tube CVD Furnace Jeol JBX-5500 E-beam Writer Zeiss 1540XB Focused Ion Beam Oxford EDAX Oxford EBSD Zeiss STEM All of these systems are used by our normal user base but not nearly enough. If you have systems that are highly available please post so that we may send users to your site. Hopefully this can increase usage for everyone's Must-have little used tools! Mark Heiden UC Riverside Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering NanoFab Cleanroom Manager (951) 827-2551 mheiden at engr.ucr.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ccheney at infinityhps.com Thu Sep 26 11:20:43 2013 From: ccheney at infinityhps.com (Craig Cheney) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:20:43 -0500 Subject: [labnetwork] Under-Utilized Equipment In-Reply-To: <000301ceba63$70312280$50936780$@engr.ucr.edu> References: <000301ceba63$70312280$50936780$@engr.ucr.edu> Message-ID: <002401cebacc$03a78cd0$0af6a670$@infinityhps.com> Mark, We have a customer that is looking for a RIE etch tool with a load lock, do you or anyone else know of one? Thanks, Craig Cheney Description: cid:image001.jpg at 01C7E19F.47FFBAE0 Desk: (608)834-4200 Fax: (608)834-4299 Cell: (608)438-8714 This e-mail transmission and any attachments to it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, your use, forwarding, printing, storing, disseminating, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and delete it from your computer. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Heiden Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:52 PM To: 'Fab Network' Subject: [labnetwork] Under-Utilized Equipment Has anyone or everyone had the experience of purchasing an expensive or high maintenance tool that a professor or user group HAD to have, only to watch it sit there with little or no usage? Maintenance bills piling up and no revenue to offset it? We ended up with a few under-utilize excellent tools that are available to users from other institutions in the event that they don't exist at their home labs. Here is our list: 6 inch 4-Tube CVD Furnace Jeol JBX-5500 E-beam Writer Zeiss 1540XB Focused Ion Beam Oxford EDAX Oxford EBSD Zeiss STEM All of these systems are used by our normal user base but not nearly enough. If you have systems that are highly available please post so that we may send users to your site. Hopefully this can increase usage for everyone's Must-have little used tools! Mark Heiden UC Riverside Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering NanoFab Cleanroom Manager (951) 827-2551 mheiden at engr.ucr.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5517 bytes Desc: not available URL: From evporte at uark.edu Thu Sep 26 14:05:49 2013 From: evporte at uark.edu (Errol V. Porter) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 18:05:49 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] UARK Under-utilized equipment list Message-ID: <49510757561B8E4EB8076830B69BF2775764F8D8@ex-mbx1b.uark.edu> Greetings, As per Mark Heiden's request, I am posting the one tool that fits the criteria described; JEOL JBX 5500FS E-beam writer A. Piece, 50mm, & 100mm cassette's available. (Last service 08/2013) B. PMMA primary resist used and characterized. a. Primary mode - 4: 50kV, Aperture 2 {1 nA current} C. Utilizing Microsoft PC driven software for calibration, design and exposure. a. Readily interchangeable to UNIX version for users experienced with that GUI D. LINKCAD 7.0 DXF to GDSII software conversion available on adjacent computer E. Recommended third party Beam exposure software not purchased F. In-house exposure, Cr/Au metallization and PG Remover lift off service available for samples in wafer form. a. Detailed in-situ traveler used during service available upon request. Regards, Errol Porter University of Arkansas / HiDEC 700 W. Research Center Blvd Fayetteville, AR 72701 Tel. (479) 575-2519 Mobile: (479) 236-0693 Fax (479) 575-2719 email: evporte at uark.edu http://www.hidec.uark.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill at eecs.berkeley.edu Fri Sep 27 17:19:16 2013 From: bill at eecs.berkeley.edu (Bill Flounders) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:19:16 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] Position Available at UC Berkeley NanoLab Message-ID: <5245F654.6010607@eecs.berkeley.edu> Colleagues, The Berkeley Nanoab has an opening for an R&D3 engineer. The position emphasizes equipment and facilities support not process. For a detailed job description, go to: http://jobs.berkeley.edu/job-listings.html Select external applicant and search for Job #16689 Sincerely, Bill Flounders UC Berkeley NanoLab From christophe.clement at polymtl.ca Fri Sep 27 17:28:13 2013 From: christophe.clement at polymtl.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christophe_Cl=E9ment?=) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [labnetwork] Refurbished RIE Message-ID: <695ab3d9.000003ac.00000118@lmf-technos2> Hello labnetwork group, We are presently looking for a refurbished RIE to buy. This RIE should have a load lock as we want to use toxic gases such as Cl2 or HBr. It should also accommodate sample size up to 6 inch. Does anyone know where could we find a company in US or CA who can supply such refurbished equipment? Thank you for your answers! Regards, Christophe Cl?ment Technicien laboratoire Laboratoire de microfabrication (LMF) Groupe des Couches Minces (GCM) www.gcmlab.ca Ecole Polytechnique de Montr?al www.polymtl.ca D?partement de g?nie physique * 2900 Boulevard Edouard Monpetit Pavillon JAB Campus de l'Universit? de Montr?al Montr?al (Qu?bec) H3T 1J4 8 christophe.clement at polymtl.ca ( 514 340 4711 # 2417 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: