[labnetwork] Question about tool charges

[Sandrine Martin]

Thanks everybody for your feedback on this. As usual, it's very helpful to
see what others are doing!
Regards
Sandrine


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Aebersold,Julia W. <
julia.aebersold at louisville.edu> wrote:

> Sandrine, we only charge for tool usage.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Julia Aebersold, Ph.D.
> MNTC Cleanroom Manager
> Shumaker Research Building, Room 233
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> University of Louisville
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:
> labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of John Shott
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:20 AM
> To: Sandrine Martin
> Cc: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Question about tool charges
>
> Sandrine:
>
> To add to comments by others: At Stanford, we charge for tool time.  We
> ask that our lab members send out email to the tool-specific mailing list
> when they cancel a reservation on a high-demand tool.  If we receive
> complaints that there is too much reserved-but-not-used time on a tool, we
> take it up individually with the offending parties.  While there is always
> the temptation to charge folks for unused reservations, I've found that to
> be something that is easy to say and hard to implement.  Even automatically
> identifying a reservation that did not result in matching equipment use is
> not trivial.  Plus, what do you do if someone failed to use a reservation
> because their progress was stopped by problems with an upstream tool?
>
> Like Berkeley, we have tool-specific reservation limits that can be
> fine-tuned for our high-demand tools.  We have also learned that it's
> important to have software that allows you to track the details of when
> reservations were made and deleted.  That is often useful to find folks who
> are trying to "game" the reservation system in some way.  For example,
> people that have reached their reservation limit on a tool will often get
> someone else to reserve a tool.  Then that second person cancels the
> reservation at the last minute (thinking that they have covered their
> tracks ...) and then the first person magically walks up to the tool and
> begins to use it.
>
> Good luck,
>
> John
>
>
> On 3/11/2014 10:57 AM, Sandrine Martin wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > As we continue our analysis of costs and charges at the University of
> > Michigan LNF, we would like to know a couple of things at other
> > facilities that also charge for tool time:
> > - do you charge for reserved time or time actually used?
> > - what is your policy for tool reservations that are not used?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sandrine
>
>
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