From bob.henderson at etchedintimeinc.com Tue Sep 3 14:05:59 2019 From: bob.henderson at etchedintimeinc.com (Bob Henderson) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 11:05:59 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] University wafer fab looking for foundry business Message-ID: <000001d56282$3e02d060$ba087120$@henderson@etchedintimeinc.com> Greetings: I am representing a university that is looking for foundry work for their 6" silicon line. If any of your customers are looking for devices that exceed your in-house capabilities or new start-ups I would be glad to help them. Full lithography, deposition, plasma etch, wet processing, and much more is available at this site. Please contact me directly if you would like additional information Bob Henderson Etched In Time, Inc Bob.henderson at etchedintimeinc.com Phone: 602-206-6154 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mheiden at engr.ucr.edu Wed Sep 4 14:34:44 2019 From: mheiden at engr.ucr.edu (Mark Heiden) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 18:34:44 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] 2% Silane Message-ID: <021b8464268143e8bad9c41b2789ecb5@engr.ucr.edu> Does anyone know a vendor that may be able to supply a small bottle "B" size of 2% Silane in short time? Thanks in advance, Mark Heiden NanoFab Cleanroom Manager Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering University of California, Riverside 951-827-2551 http://cnsebcoe.ucr.acsitefactory.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From laura.scholer-bland at ehs.gatech.edu Thu Sep 5 13:54:32 2019 From: laura.scholer-bland at ehs.gatech.edu (Scholer- Bland, Laura C) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:54:32 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] 2% Silane In-Reply-To: <021b8464268143e8bad9c41b2789ecb5@engr.ucr.edu> References: <021b8464268143e8bad9c41b2789ecb5@engr.ucr.edu> Message-ID: Hello, I would try Matheson gas. They usually have specialty types and sizes of various gases. http://www.mathesongas.com/pdfs/products/EGG/silane.pdf Regards, Laura Laura Scholer-Bland Associate Laboratory and Chemical Safety Officer Laura.scholer-bland at ehs.gatech.edu Cell: 678-270-0970 Office: 404-385-1302 From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Mark Heiden Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 2:35 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] 2% Silane Does anyone know a vendor that may be able to supply a small bottle "B" size of 2% Silane in short time? Thanks in advance, Mark Heiden NanoFab Cleanroom Manager Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering University of California, Riverside 951-827-2551 http://cnsebcoe.ucr.acsitefactory.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lrehn at tamu.edu Fri Sep 6 10:33:06 2019 From: lrehn at tamu.edu (Rehn, Larry A) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 14:33:06 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] 2% Silane In-Reply-To: References: <021b8464268143e8bad9c41b2789ecb5@engr.ucr.edu> Message-ID: <2009e57966644e84be5acf9933a7a79b@tamu.edu> I would agree to try Matheson. They have been quite responsive to work with our lab to supply these types of gases. In Texas we have a good sales specialist who might be able to provide a contact in CA. Jason Fulcher Specialty Gas Sales Specialist Matheson Gas Austin, San Antonio, Houston, College Station & Surrounding Areas Cell: 832-206-6828 Email: jfulcher at mathesongas.com Website: www.mathesongas.com/gases/specialty Best regards, Larry A Rehn Technical Lab Manager AggieFab Nanofabrication Facility Texas A&M University 979 845-3199 lrehn at tamu.edu [cid:image001.jpg at 01CEC37D.FAF8C9E0] From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Scholer- Bland, Laura C Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 12:55 PM To: Mark Heiden ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] 2% Silane Hello, I would try Matheson gas. They usually have specialty types and sizes of various gases. http://www.mathesongas.com/pdfs/products/EGG/silane.pdf Regards, Laura Laura Scholer-Bland Associate Laboratory and Chemical Safety Officer Laura.scholer-bland at ehs.gatech.edu Cell: 678-270-0970 Office: 404-385-1302 From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Mark Heiden Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 2:35 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] 2% Silane Does anyone know a vendor that may be able to supply a small bottle "B" size of 2% Silane in short time? Thanks in advance, Mark Heiden NanoFab Cleanroom Manager Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering University of California, Riverside 951-827-2551 http://cnsebcoe.ucr.acsitefactory.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Nava Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. Director of CNI Shared Labs CEPSR/MC 8903 530 west 120th st. NY NY 10027 Office: 212-8549927 Cell: 201-5627600 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23789 bytes Desc: not available URL: From James.Vlahakis at tufts.edu Fri Sep 13 16:32:54 2019 From: James.Vlahakis at tufts.edu (Vlahakis, James) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 20:32:54 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Issues with the Parylene Coater In-Reply-To: <008e01d56a55$f776a550$e663eff0$@columbia.edu> References: , <008e01d56a55$f776a550$e663eff0$@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <676C9381B5E6AC4FAE9CD9CFCC40DF1E010D33AB05@tabvmexdag1mb03.tufts.ad.tufts.edu> Hi Nava, we have the same system and noted similar at times but never that severe. It may be the pathway to your process chamber is blocked - the parylene vaporizes, has no place to go and deposits right there. To check this shine a flashlight into the chamber where you normally load the dimer. At the process chamber, pull the flute out and look down - can you see the light? If not, or if the tubing seems much less than ~1" in diameter you have to clean out the accumulated parylene layers. You'll need a stiff wire brush long enough to reach all the way down. Also a vacuum - cleaning this will create a big, flaky mess. jim ________________________________ From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] on behalf of Nava Ariel-Sternberg [na2661 at columbia.edu] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 1:09 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Issues with the Parylene Coater Greetings all wise fab-yodas, We have an old SCS LABCOTER? 2 PARYLENE DEPOSITION SYSTEM that has been working great until recently. We are now experiencing problems with it. The deposition is occurring on the back door of the furnace (see picture) and not on the sample? Has anyone seen this? It seems like a temperature issue but if someone experienced it and share advice and specifics that would be greatly appreicated. Thanks, Nava [IMG_8837.jpg] Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. Director of CNI Shared Labs CEPSR/MC 8903 530 west 120th st. NY NY 10027 Office: 212-8549927 Cell: 201-5627600 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23789 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From patricns at uw.edu Fri Sep 13 18:56:47 2019 From: patricns at uw.edu (N Shane Patrick) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:56:47 -0700 Subject: [labnetwork] Issues with the Parylene Coater In-Reply-To: <008e01d56a55$f776a550$e663eff0$@columbia.edu> References: <008e01d56a55$f776a550$e663eff0$@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Hi Nava, Is the tool completing its cycle properly or is it aborting with an error? I would expect a failure to obtain temperature to result in an error. My suspicion would be that you may have a clog somewhere between the furnace and the chamber. In our system, we get build up of parylene and a yellow/brown offproduct over time. This usually clogs the baffles first, but can clog other portions of the system. SCS recommends taking the system apart and cleaning essentially all of these components periodically with a hefty degree of scrubbing. Good luck, -Shane Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Nava Ariel-Sternberg wrote: > > Greetings all wise fab-yodas, > We have an old SCS LABCOTER? 2 PARYLENE DEPOSITION SYSTEM that has been working great until recently. We are now experiencing problems with it. The deposition is occurring on the back door of the furnace (see picture) and not on the sample? > Has anyone seen this? It seems like a temperature issue but if someone experienced it and share advice and specifics that would be greatly appreicated. > Thanks, > Nava > > > Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. > Director of CNI Shared Labs > CEPSR/MC 8903 > 530 west 120th st. NY > NY 10027 > Office: 212-8549927 > Cell: 201-5627600 > > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From na2661 at columbia.edu Mon Sep 16 14:26:22 2019 From: na2661 at columbia.edu (Nava Ariel-Sternberg) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 14:26:22 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] Issues with the Parylene Coater In-Reply-To: <008e01d56a55$f776a550$e663eff0$@columbia.edu> References: <008e01d56a55$f776a550$e663eff0$@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <00d801d56cbc$3e6b2b80$bb418280$@columbia.edu> Many thanks to all that responded. The issue was bad contacts to the heating of the door. It wasn?t getting hot and the deposition was occurring there. Everything is in order today. Happy Monday! Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. Director of CNI Shared Labs CEPSR/MC 8903 530 west 120th st. NY NY 10027 Office: 212-8549927 Cell: 201-5627600 From: Nava Ariel-Sternberg Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 1:09 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Issues with the Parylene Coater Greetings all wise fab-yodas, We have an old SCS LABCOTER? 2 PARYLENE DEPOSITION SYSTEM that has been working great until recently. We are now experiencing problems with it. The deposition is occurring on the back door of the furnace (see picture) and not on the sample? Has anyone seen this? It seems like a temperature issue but if someone experienced it and share advice and specifics that would be greatly appreicated. Thanks, Nava Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. Director of CNI Shared Labs CEPSR/MC 8903 530 west 120th st. NY NY 10027 Office: 212-8549927 Cell: 201-5627600 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 23789 bytes Desc: not available URL: From julia.aebersold at louisville.edu Mon Sep 16 15:11:22 2019 From: julia.aebersold at louisville.edu (Aebersold,Julia W.) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 19:11:22 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 2210 South Brook Street Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk Tue Sep 17 03:42:50 2019 From: odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk (Clark O.D.) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 07:42:50 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation In-Reply-To: <5b1e2cfc797c4fa3933f82b5e89e723e@draper.com> References: <5b1e2cfc797c4fa3933f82b5e89e723e@draper.com> Message-ID: Can be done and evaporates fairly reliably. It takes very little power to melt. For us it helped to keep the walls of the crucible cold to stop it creeping up the sides and out onto the hearth. Can't remember what crucible we used but a TiN coating is probably not a bad idea to try and stop Li interdiffusion. There is various literature which discusses it being an effective barrier to Li. Pyrolytic Boron Nitride is another good alternative. It also evaporates well from a k-cell at ~500C but eventually it will creep around the end of your crucible and attack heating filaments if you run it too long. PBN crucibles again. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 13 September 2019 16:55 To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi Folks, Has anybody allowed Lithium into an E-Beam evaporator, if so any tips? Thanks Rick Richard H. Morrison Principal Member of the Technical Staff Draper 555 Technology Square Cambridge, MA 02139-3573 Work 617-258-3420 Cell 508-930-3461 www.draper.com ________________________________ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this email and immediately destroy all copies of this email. ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmorrison at draper.com Tue Sep 17 05:33:20 2019 From: rmorrison at draper.com (Morrison, Richard H., Jr) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 09:33:20 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation In-Reply-To: References: <5b1e2cfc797c4fa3933f82b5e89e723e@draper.com> Message-ID: Thanks Clark excellent information. Rick From: Clark O.D. [mailto:odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:43 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: RE: Lithium evaporation Can be done and evaporates fairly reliably. It takes very little power to melt. For us it helped to keep the walls of the crucible cold to stop it creeping up the sides and out onto the hearth. Can't remember what crucible we used but a TiN coating is probably not a bad idea to try and stop Li interdiffusion. There is various literature which discusses it being an effective barrier to Li. Pyrolytic Boron Nitride is another good alternative. It also evaporates well from a k-cell at ~500C but eventually it will creep around the end of your crucible and attack heating filaments if you run it too long. PBN crucibles again. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 13 September 2019 16:55 To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi Folks, Has anybody allowed Lithium into an E-Beam evaporator, if so any tips? Thanks Rick Richard H. Morrison Principal Member of the Technical Staff Draper 555 Technology Square Cambridge, MA 02139-3573 Work 617-258-3420 Cell 508-930-3461 www.draper.com ________________________________ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this email and immediately destroy all copies of this email. ________________________________ ________________________________ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this email and immediately destroy all copies of this email. ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rgc5 at psu.edu Tue Sep 17 10:00:19 2019 From: rgc5 at psu.edu (Cornwall, Robert Gary) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 14:00:19 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We have started doing this for our labs. There is a soon to be released nanofab version although this does not really replace someone on campus wantsing a tour. http://apps.mri.psu.edu/MCL-Xray/ Bob Robert Cornwall Penn State Materials Research Institute Managing Director 814-863-8735 rgc5 at psu.edu Connect with MRI: https://www.mri.psu.edu/opt From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:11 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 2210 South Brook Street Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheorghe.iordache at kaust.edu.sa Tue Sep 17 10:30:57 2019 From: gheorghe.iordache at kaust.edu.sa (Gheorghe Iordache) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 14:30:57 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation In-Reply-To: References: <5b1e2cfc797c4fa3933f82b5e89e723e@draper.com> Message-ID: Dear Rick, This material deposition chart is a good source of information: https://www.lesker.com/newweb/deposition_materials/materialdepositionchart.cfm?pgid=0 Lithium may contaminate your vacuum system and special precautions shall be taken for exhaust and/or decontamination. It shall be avoided the contact with water or humid air as they react violently with Lithium dust (see for example page. 9-62 of Laser Program Annual Report, Volume 3, 1980 ! :)) Kind regards, ======================= Gheorghe IORDACHE, PhD Physics, MBA Director of the Nanofabrication Core Lab KAUST King Abdullah University of Science and Technology Al Khawarizmi Building 1 East, Level 3, Office 3415 Thuwal 23955-6900 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Office: +966 (0)12 8080447 Mobile: +966 (0)540381154 Email: gheorghe.iordache at kaust.edu.sa Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gheorghe-iordache-phd-physics-mba/ Follow the Core Labs: corelabs.kaust.edu.sa; https://twitter.com/kaust_corelabs; https://www.instagram.com/kaustcorelabs/; https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/12179999 Visit the Core Labs: https://corelabs.kaust.edu.sa/visitor-information ================ Please note that the weekend in Saudi Arabia is Friday and Saturday ======== What you do for yourself vanishes once you're gone. What you do for others stays for others as your legacy. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 17 September 2019 12:33 To: Clark O.D. ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Thanks Clark excellent information. Rick From: Clark O.D. [mailto:odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:43 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: RE: Lithium evaporation Can be done and evaporates fairly reliably. It takes very little power to melt. For us it helped to keep the walls of the crucible cold to stop it creeping up the sides and out onto the hearth. Can't remember what crucible we used but a TiN coating is probably not a bad idea to try and stop Li interdiffusion. There is various literature which discusses it being an effective barrier to Li. Pyrolytic Boron Nitride is another good alternative. It also evaporates well from a k-cell at ~500C but eventually it will creep around the end of your crucible and attack heating filaments if you run it too long. PBN crucibles again. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 13 September 2019 16:55 To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi Folks, Has anybody allowed Lithium into an E-Beam evaporator, if so any tips? Thanks Rick Richard H. Morrison Principal Member of the Technical Staff Draper 555 Technology Square Cambridge, MA 02139-3573 Work 617-258-3420 Cell 508-930-3461 www.draper.com ________________________________ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this email and immediately destroy all copies of this email. ________________________________ ________________________________ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this email and immediately destroy all copies of this email. ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cekendri at mtu.edu Wed Sep 18 08:40:46 2019 From: cekendri at mtu.edu (Chito Kendrick) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 08:40:46 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Robert, Is this tour something you guys did in house, or did you work with an external company. Regards, Chito Kendrick On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:22 AM Cornwall, Robert Gary wrote: > We have started doing this for our labs. There is a soon to be released > nanofab version although this does not really replace someone on campus > wantsing a tour. > > > > http://apps.mri.psu.edu/MCL-Xray/ > > > > Bob > > > > Robert Cornwall > Penn State Materials Research Institute > Managing Director > 814-863-8735 > rgc5 at psu.edu > > Connect with MRI: https://www.mri.psu.edu/opt > > *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu *On > Behalf Of *Aebersold,Julia W. > *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2019 3:11 PM > *To:* labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > *Subject:* [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours > > > > Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect > others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus > and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. > While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about > our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by > developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. > > > > If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a > self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works > well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. > > Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center > > University of Louisville > > Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 > > 2210 South Brook Street > > Louisville, KY 40292 > > (502) 852-1572 > > > > http://louisville.edu/micronano/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork > -- Chito Kendrick Ph.D. Managing Director of the Microfabrication Facility Research Assistant Professor Electrical and Computer Engineering Michigan Technological University Room 436 M&M Building 1400 Townsend Dr. Houghton, Michigan 49931-1295 814-308-4255 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our facility is limited access (key card only) and a self guided tour would not limit individuals from areas of potential hazards.?? We have had faculty users lead tours for their visitors if we were not available.? Otherwise, tours are all staff led. This is most likely a facility by facility decision based upon potential hazards and levels of access. Best Regards, Brent -- Brent P. Gila, PhD. Director, Nanoscale Research Facility 1041 Center Drive University of Florida Gainesville, Florida 32611 Tel:352-273-2245 Fax:352-846-2877 email:bgila at ufl.edu On 9/17/2019 10:00 AM, Cornwall, Robert Gary wrote: > > > *EXTERNAL EMAIL:* Exercise caution with links and attachments. > > > > We have started doing this for our labs. There is a soon to be > released nanofab version although this does not really replace someone > on campus wantsing a tour. > > http://apps.mri.psu.edu/MCL-Xray/ > > > Bob > > Robert Cornwall > Penn State Materials Research Institute > Managing Director > 814-863-8735 > rgc5 at psu.edu > > Connect with MRI: https://www.mri.psu.edu/opt > > > > *From:* labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > *On Behalf Of *Aebersold,Julia W. > *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2019 3:11 PM > *To:* labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > *Subject:* [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours > > Hello everyone!? Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I > suspect others get inundated, too.? Due to new building construction > on campus and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular > tour destination. ?While we welcome the networking opportunity and > getting the word out about our center we want to help alleviate this > time consuming activity by developing a self-guided tour and > rejuvenate our signage. > > If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a > self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that > works well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. > > Cheers! > > Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. > > Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center > > University of Louisville > > Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 > > 2210 South Brook Street > > Louisville, KY? 40292 > > (502) 852-1572 > > http://louisville.edu/micronano/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mtl.mit.edu_mailman_listinfo.cgi_labnetwork&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=gl_2fLZA_-_JfH_dOmx7ug&m=4TeZoP-E_FGY4wvJ9G9UhbMrIkWne8an8gkEI9opFwM&s=_6ArZ_VbIM8mVpWgPkcukw7lvS7mqGS1nbswPKSNXUQ&e= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julia.aebersold at louisville.edu Wed Sep 18 11:53:19 2019 From: julia.aebersold at louisville.edu (Aebersold,Julia W.) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:53:19 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: <783ed15e-f1b1-1c98-01b5-500326e128ea@ufl.edu> References: , <783ed15e-f1b1-1c98-01b5-500326e128ea@ufl.edu> Message-ID: Our building is open during the day and the hallway outside of our cleanroom is open. In the evenings the outdoor doors lock and are card key access However, all of the labs that are part of our are card key access only. So folks can't wander in without access regardless of the time of day. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Brent Gila Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:42 AM To: Cornwall, Robert Gary ; Aebersold,Julia W. ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Cc: bgila at ufl.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours My concern would be safety. Our facility is limited access (key card only) and a self guided tour would not limit individuals from areas of potential hazards. We have had faculty users lead tours for their visitors if we were not available. Otherwise, tours are all staff led. This is most likely a facility by facility decision based upon potential hazards and levels of access. Best Regards, Brent -- Brent P. Gila, PhD. Director, Nanoscale Research Facility 1041 Center Drive University of Florida Gainesville, Florida 32611 Tel:352-273-2245 Fax:352-846-2877 email:bgila at ufl.edu On 9/17/2019 10:00 AM, Cornwall, Robert Gary wrote: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Exercise caution with links and attachments. We have started doing this for our labs. There is a soon to be released nanofab version although this does not really replace someone on campus wantsing a tour. http://apps.mri.psu.edu/MCL-Xray/ Bob Robert Cornwall Penn State Materials Research Institute Managing Director 814-863-8735 rgc5 at psu.edu Connect with MRI: https://www.mri.psu.edu/opt From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:11 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 2210 South Brook Street Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mtl.mit.edu_mailman_listinfo.cgi_labnetwork&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=gl_2fLZA_-_JfH_dOmx7ug&m=4TeZoP-E_FGY4wvJ9G9UhbMrIkWne8an8gkEI9opFwM&s=_6ArZ_VbIM8mVpWgPkcukw7lvS7mqGS1nbswPKSNXUQ&e= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From derose at caltech.edu Wed Sep 18 12:22:28 2019 From: derose at caltech.edu (DeRose, Guy A.) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:22:28 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: References: <783ed15e-f1b1-1c98-01b5-500326e128ea@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <3FEA2156-AD09-4BE1-8B52-B0CC664DEE20@caltech.edu> The building here has similar access hours to what Julia described at her location, so unauthorized people are kept out of the lab itself. One thing we did early on was to install a couple of large monitors in the (public) hallway that are fed from our closed-circuit camera system. This way, someone can at least get a ?peek? into the lab at any time without needing to schedule with a staff member to go inside. Best regards, Guy Guy DeRose, PhD, Member of the Professional Staff Associate Director of Technical Operations, Kavli Nanoscience Institute California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA USA (O) 1-626-395-3423 (M) 1-626-676-8529 http://kni.caltech.edu From: on behalf of "Aebersold,Julia W." Date: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 9:14 AM To: "Cornwall, Robert Gary" , "labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu" , "bgila at ufl.edu" Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours Our building is open during the day and the hallway outside of our cleanroom is open. In the evenings the outdoor doors lock and are card key access However, all of the labs that are part of our are card key access only. So folks can't wander in without access regardless of the time of day. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Brent Gila Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:42 AM To: Cornwall, Robert Gary ; Aebersold,Julia W. ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Cc: bgila at ufl.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours My concern would be safety. Our facility is limited access (key card only) and a self guided tour would not limit individuals from areas of potential hazards. We have had faculty users lead tours for their visitors if we were not available. Otherwise, tours are all staff led. This is most likely a facility by facility decision based upon potential hazards and levels of access. Best Regards, Brent -- Brent P. Gila, PhD. Director, Nanoscale Research Facility 1041 Center Drive University of Florida Gainesville, Florida 32611 Tel:352-273-2245 Fax:352-846-2877 email:bgila at ufl.edu On 9/17/2019 10:00 AM, Cornwall, Robert Gary wrote: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Exercise caution with links and attachments. We have started doing this for our labs. There is a soon to be released nanofab version although this does not really replace someone on campus wantsing a tour. http://apps.mri.psu.edu/MCL-Xray/ Bob Robert Cornwall Penn State Materials Research Institute Managing Director 814-863-8735 rgc5 at psu.edu Connect with MRI: https://www.mri.psu.edu/opt From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:11 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 2210 South Brook Street Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mtl.mit.edu_mailman_listinfo.cgi_labnetwork&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=gl_2fLZA_-_JfH_dOmx7ug&m=4TeZoP-E_FGY4wvJ9G9UhbMrIkWne8an8gkEI9opFwM&s=_6ArZ_VbIM8mVpWgPkcukw7lvS7mqGS1nbswPKSNXUQ&e= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mondol at mit.edu Wed Sep 18 13:18:35 2019 From: mondol at mit.edu (Mark K Mondol) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 17:18:35 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] HSQ Price Increase In-Reply-To: <5D822BEB.1060701@yale.edu> References: <2252846B-898F-42CA-A9FA-26310ED68B1B@uw.edu>, <5D822BEB.1060701@yale.edu> Message-ID: <1568827112501.97649@mit.edu> I have been getting 20-24 week quoted delivery times. I have had 2 orders with an incorrect address (i.e. just MIT, 32 Vassar St. Cambridge MA 02139) which meant that twice the order was rejected at receiving, resulting in ruined product, so I am still waiting for an order that was placed 09 APR 2019 (yes the year does seem necessary). With an 8 week delivery at the time of the initial order I have requested that Krayden receive the shipment from Dow and then reship to me as Dow seems incapable of getting the address right. It is due to be shipped on 01 OCT, almost 6 months after the order was placed. I have also placed a parallel order with Ellsworth as back up. As soon as I get something in I will place another order and keep all material in liquid nitrogen. Thanks Mike. Regards, Mark K Mondol ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark K Mondol Assistant Director NanoStructures Laboratory And Facility Manager Scanning Electron Beam Lithography Facility Bldg 36 Room 229 mondol at mit.edu office - 617-253-9617 cell - 617-224-8756 ________________________________ From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu on behalf of Michael Rooks Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:06 AM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] HSQ Price Increase You'll be lucky to get any HSQ at all. Ordering HSQ has gotten pretty bad. I made an order in June, and by this month only half of it arrived. And Dow (now "DDP") got the address wrong again. -------------------------------- Michael Rooks Yale Institute of Nanoscience and Quantum Engineering nano.yale.edu On 09/17/2019 02:26 PM, N Shane Patrick wrote: Hello all, I've been informed by Krayden that as of September 11 the price of HSQ (XR-1541-006, 125mL) has increased to $1801.43, which represents a massive increase from my order back in July. I don't know the reasons, but thought people might want to be aware. Lead times continue to be 12 weeks or more. N. Shane Patrick Direct Write and Stepper Lithography Research Engineer, Washington Nanofabrication Facility (WNF) National Nanotechnology Coordinated Infrastructure (NNCI) University of Washington Fluke Hall 129, Box 352143 (206) 221-1045 patricns at uw.edu http://www.wnf.washington.edu/ _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our staff have not tested its performance as an etch mask, but anecdotally, I have heard from some of our EBL users that it behaves the same as standard HSQ for chlorine-based ICPRIE of Si (e.g., for Si photonics). (As a side note, Applied Quantum Materials is a spin-off company from our university's chemistry department, but they are not associated with our centre in any way.) Cheers, ? Aaron Aaron Hryciw, PhD, PEng Fabrication Group Manager University of Alberta - nanoFAB W1-060 ECERF Building 9107 - 116 Street Edmonton, Alberta Canada T6G 2V4 Ph: 780-940-7938 www.nanofab.ualberta.ca On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:00 AM Michael Rooks wrote: > You'll be lucky to get any HSQ at all. Ordering HSQ has gotten pretty bad. > I made an order in June, and by this month only half of it arrived. > And Dow (now "DDP") got the address wrong again. > > -------------------------------- > Michael Rooks > Yale Institute of Nanoscience and Quantum Engineering > nano.yale.edu > > > > On 09/17/2019 02:26 PM, N Shane Patrick wrote: > > Hello all, > > I?ve been informed by Krayden that as of September 11 the price of HSQ > (XR-1541-006, 125mL) has increased to $1801.43, which represents a massive > increase from my order back in July. I don?t know the reasons, but thought > people might want to be aware. Lead times continue to be 12 weeks or more. > > N. 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URL: From rreger at purdue.edu Wed Sep 18 14:35:38 2019 From: rreger at purdue.edu (Reger, Ronald K) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 18:35:38 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: References: , <783ed15e-f1b1-1c98-01b5-500326e128ea@ufl.edu> Message-ID: Purdue's approach is exactly like Julia's at Louisville with evening exterior door locks/card swipe access to the building after hours, and card swipe to labs/cleanroom all the time. Any hazardous areas are restricted by key card access and are limited to a small group of staff, so no public access is allowed. Also, a few years ago our support group created a self-guided tour that had a few stops at strategic locations around the facility and had QR codes at each stop that could be scanned for more in-depth information about that spot. Apparently this took quite some effort was not as successful as had been hoped. It hasn't been updated or kept up. Ron Reger Engineering Manager Birck Nanotechnology Center | Room 2289 | Office: 765.494.6667 | Email: rreger at purdue.edu Wiki: https://wiki.itap.purdue.edu/display/BNCWiki iLabs: https://purdue.ilabsolutions.com/homepage/ ______________________________________________________________ [Purdue_University-150_Years_of_Giant_Leaps.png (300?-66)] www.purdue.edu/giantleaps From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:53 AM To: Cornwall, Robert Gary ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; bgila at ufl.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours Our building is open during the day and the hallway outside of our cleanroom is open. In the evenings the outdoor doors lock and are card key access However, all of the labs that are part of our are card key access only. So folks can't wander in without access regardless of the time of day. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Brent Gila > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:42 AM To: Cornwall, Robert Gary >; Aebersold,Julia W. >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > Cc: bgila at ufl.edu > Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours My concern would be safety. Our facility is limited access (key card only) and a self guided tour would not limit individuals from areas of potential hazards. We have had faculty users lead tours for their visitors if we were not available. Otherwise, tours are all staff led. This is most likely a facility by facility decision based upon potential hazards and levels of access. Best Regards, Brent -- Brent P. Gila, PhD. Director, Nanoscale Research Facility 1041 Center Drive University of Florida Gainesville, Florida 32611 Tel:352-273-2245 Fax:352-846-2877 email:bgila at ufl.edu On 9/17/2019 10:00 AM, Cornwall, Robert Gary wrote: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Exercise caution with links and attachments. We have started doing this for our labs. There is a soon to be released nanofab version although this does not really replace someone on campus wantsing a tour. http://apps.mri.psu.edu/MCL-Xray/ Bob Robert Cornwall Penn State Materials Research Institute Managing Director 814-863-8735 rgc5 at psu.edu Connect with MRI: https://www.mri.psu.edu/opt From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Aebersold,Julia W. Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:11 PM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. Cheers! 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We are hoping that we will have good news about progress on a solution to this at next years meeting at Caltech (April 6-7). Kevin > On Sep 17, 2019, at 2:26 PM, N Shane Patrick wrote: > > Hello all, > > I?ve been informed by Krayden that as of September 11 the price of HSQ (XR-1541-006, 125mL) has increased to $1801.43, which represents a massive increase from my order back in July. I don?t know the reasons, but thought people might want to be aware. Lead times continue to be 12 weeks or more. > > N. Shane Patrick > Direct Write and Stepper Lithography > Research Engineer, Washington Nanofabrication Facility (WNF) > National Nanotechnology Coordinated Infrastructure (NNCI) > University of Washington > Fluke Hall 129, Box 352143 > (206) 221-1045 > patricns at uw.edu > http://www.wnf.washington.edu/ > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Thomas_Ferraguto at uml.edu Thu Sep 19 08:10:23 2019 From: Thomas_Ferraguto at uml.edu (Ferraguto, Thomas S) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 12:10:23 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] LN2 consumption Message-ID: <26177ba2eb5b478b93dcc11ab5158abd@uml.edu> I made a great N2 gas consumption work sheet 8 years ago for sizing our LN2 tank. That spread sheet unfortunately is in ether somewhere. Rather than recreating it... I was hoping someone may have one. I'm trying to back out our usage to find a potential leak source. Best Regards Tom Ferraguto Thomas S. Ferraguto Saab ETIC Nanofabrication Laboratory Director Saab ETIC Building Director 1 University Avenue Lowell MA 01854 Mobile 617-755-0910 Land 978-934-1809 Fax 978-934-1014 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From laura.scholer-bland at ehs.gatech.edu Thu Sep 19 12:29:05 2019 From: laura.scholer-bland at ehs.gatech.edu (Scholer- Bland, Laura C) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 16:29:05 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] LN2 consumption In-Reply-To: <26177ba2eb5b478b93dcc11ab5158abd@uml.edu> References: <26177ba2eb5b478b93dcc11ab5158abd@uml.edu> Message-ID: Hey Tom, Is the attached what you need? Regards, Laura From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Ferraguto, Thomas S Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:10 AM To: 'labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu' Subject: [labnetwork] LN2 consumption I made a great N2 gas consumption work sheet 8 years ago for sizing our LN2 tank. That spread sheet unfortunately is in ether somewhere. Rather than recreating it... I was hoping someone may have one. I'm trying to back out our usage to find a potential leak source. Best Regards Tom Ferraguto Thomas S. Ferraguto Saab ETIC Nanofabrication Laboratory Director Saab ETIC Building Director 1 University Avenue Lowell MA 01854 Mobile 617-755-0910 Land 978-934-1809 Fax 978-934-1014 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Copy of Liquid_nitrogen_oxygen_depletion_calculator(1).xlsx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet Size: 41367 bytes Desc: Copy of Liquid_nitrogen_oxygen_depletion_calculator(1).xlsx URL: From k.luongo at gmail.com Thu Sep 19 14:39:29 2019 From: k.luongo at gmail.com (Kevin luongo) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:39:29 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Below is a link is a virtual tour I had setup when I started. This seems to satisfy most queries, hope it helps. https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=ABLNvseuQgQ best regards, *Kevin Luongo, Ph.D.* *Nanofabrication Facility Manager* Dr. John T. Macdonald Foundation BioNIUM UM Life Science and Technology Building 1951 NW 7th Avenue, Suite 460 Miami, Florida 33136 P: 305-243-0404 | F: 305-243-5634 On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:48 PM Aebersold,Julia W. < julia.aebersold at louisville.edu> wrote: > Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect > others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus > and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. > While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about > our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by > developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. > > > > If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a > self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works > well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. > > Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center > > University of Louisville > > Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 > > 2210 South Brook Street > > Louisville, KY 40292 > > (502) 852-1572 > > > > http://louisville.edu/micronano/ > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork > -- Kevin Luongo BioNIUM University of Miami -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julia.aebersold at louisville.edu Thu Sep 19 14:52:39 2019 From: julia.aebersold at louisville.edu (Aebersold,Julia W.) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 18:52:39 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Holy Petunias! That is a sweet virtual tour!!! What package did you use to make the tour? Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: Kevin luongo Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 2:39 PM To: Aebersold,Julia W. Cc: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Self-Guided Tours Hello, Below is a link is a virtual tour I had setup when I started. This seems to satisfy most queries, hope it helps. https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=ABLNvseuQgQ best regards, Kevin Luongo, Ph.D. Nanofabrication Facility Manager Dr. John T. Macdonald Foundation BioNIUM UM Life Science and Technology Building 1951 NW 7th Avenue, Suite 460 Miami, Florida 33136 P: 305-243-0404 | F: 305-243-5634 On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:48 PM Aebersold,Julia W. > wrote: Hello everyone! Our facility gets a ton of tour requests and I suspect others get inundated, too. Due to new building construction on campus and student recruiting we are becoming even more popular tour destination. While we welcome the networking opportunity and getting the word out about our center we want to help alleviate this time consuming activity by developing a self-guided tour and rejuvenate our signage. If there are others that have gone down the path of developing a self-guided tour, have recommendations and examples of signage that works well then please send me your ideas, web links and/or images. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 2210 South Brook Street Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -- Kevin Luongo BioNIUM University of Miami -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From na2661 at columbia.edu Thu Sep 19 15:19:54 2019 From: na2661 at columbia.edu (Nava Ariel-Sternberg) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 15:19:54 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation In-Reply-To: References: <5b1e2cfc797c4fa3933f82b5e89e723e@draper.com> Message-ID: <019d01d56f1f$3832a490$a897edb0$@columbia.edu> Hi all, I agree with Gheorghe. Lithium can contaminate your system and can also interfere with other processes if it's a multi-user evaporator. It reacts with water and with Nitrogen (that's why it's normally used in a glove box with Ar). Just be careful. Thanks, Nava Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. Director of CNI Shared Labs CEPSR/MC 8903 530 west 120th st. NY NY 10027 Office: 212-8549927 Cell: 201-5627600 From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Gheorghe Iordache Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:31 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Dear Rick, This material deposition chart is a good source of information: https://www.lesker.com/newweb/deposition_materials/materialdepositionchart.c fm?pgid=0 Lithium may contaminate your vacuum system and special precautions shall be taken for exhaust and/or decontamination. It shall be avoided the contact with water or humid air as they react violently with Lithium dust (see for example page. 9-62 of Laser Program Annual Report, Volume 3, 1980 ! J) Kind regards, ======================= Gheorghe IORDACHE, PhD Physics, MBA Director of the Nanofabrication Core Lab KAUST King Abdullah University of Science and Technology Al Khawarizmi Building 1 East, Level 3, Office 3415 Thuwal 23955-6900 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Office: +966 (0)12 8080447 Mobile: +966 (0)540381154 Email: gheorghe.iordache at kaust.edu.sa Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gheorghe-iordache-phd-physics-mba/ Follow the Core Labs: corelabs.kaust.edu.sa; https://twitter.com/kaust_corelabs; https://www.instagram.com/kaustcorelabs/; https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/12179999 Visit the Core Labs: https://corelabs.kaust.edu.sa/visitor-information ================ Please note that the weekend in Saudi Arabia is Friday and Saturday ======== What you do for yourself vanishes once you're gone. What you do for others stays for others as your legacy. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 17 September 2019 12:33 To: Clark O.D. >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Thanks Clark excellent information. Rick From: Clark O.D. [mailto:odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:43 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: RE: Lithium evaporation Can be done and evaporates fairly reliably. It takes very little power to melt. For us it helped to keep the walls of the crucible cold to stop it creeping up the sides and out onto the hearth. Can't remember what crucible we used but a TiN coating is probably not a bad idea to try and stop Li interdiffusion. There is various literature which discusses it being an effective barrier to Li. Pyrolytic Boron Nitride is another good alternative. It also evaporates well from a k-cell at ~500C but eventually it will creep around the end of your crucible and attack heating filaments if you run it too long. PBN crucibles again. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 13 September 2019 16:55 To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi Folks, Has anybody allowed Lithium into an E-Beam evaporator, if so any tips? Thanks Rick Richard H. Morrison Principal Member of the Technical Staff Draper 555 Technology Square Cambridge, MA 02139-3573 Work 617-258-3420 Cell 508-930-3461 www.draper.com _____ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. 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URL: From rmorrison at draper.com Fri Sep 20 05:40:12 2019 From: rmorrison at draper.com (Morrison, Richard H., Jr) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:40:12 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation In-Reply-To: <019d01d56f1f$3832a490$a897edb0$@columbia.edu> References: <5b1e2cfc797c4fa3933f82b5e89e723e@draper.com> <019d01d56f1f$3832a490$a897edb0$@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <44469d434870469a846982bd4578a235@draper.com> Thanks everyone we have decided to not use Lithium in our EBeam Evaporator. Rick From: Nava Ariel-Sternberg [mailto:na2661 at columbia.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:20 PM To: 'Gheorghe Iordache' ; Morrison, Richard H., Jr ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: RE: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi all, I agree with Gheorghe. Lithium can contaminate your system and can also interfere with other processes if it's a multi-user evaporator. It reacts with water and with Nitrogen (that's why it's normally used in a glove box with Ar). Just be careful... Thanks, Nava Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. Director of CNI Shared Labs CEPSR/MC 8903 530 west 120th st. NY NY 10027 Office: 212-8549927 Cell: 201-5627600 From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Gheorghe Iordache Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:31 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Dear Rick, This material deposition chart is a good source of information: https://www.lesker.com/newweb/deposition_materials/materialdepositionchart.cfm?pgid=0 Lithium may contaminate your vacuum system and special precautions shall be taken for exhaust and/or decontamination. It shall be avoided the contact with water or humid air as they react violently with Lithium dust (see for example page. 9-62 of Laser Program Annual Report, Volume 3, 1980 ! :)) Kind regards, ======================= Gheorghe IORDACHE, PhD Physics, MBA Director of the Nanofabrication Core Lab KAUST King Abdullah University of Science and Technology Al Khawarizmi Building 1 East, Level 3, Office 3415 Thuwal 23955-6900 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Office: +966 (0)12 8080447 Mobile: +966 (0)540381154 Email: gheorghe.iordache at kaust.edu.sa Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gheorghe-iordache-phd-physics-mba/ Follow the Core Labs: corelabs.kaust.edu.sa; https://twitter.com/kaust_corelabs; https://www.instagram.com/kaustcorelabs/; https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/12179999 Visit the Core Labs: https://corelabs.kaust.edu.sa/visitor-information ================ Please note that the weekend in Saudi Arabia is Friday and Saturday ======== What you do for yourself vanishes once you're gone. What you do for others stays for others as your legacy. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 17 September 2019 12:33 To: Clark O.D. >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Thanks Clark excellent information. Rick From: Clark O.D. [mailto:odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:43 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: RE: Lithium evaporation Can be done and evaporates fairly reliably. It takes very little power to melt. For us it helped to keep the walls of the crucible cold to stop it creeping up the sides and out onto the hearth. Can't remember what crucible we used but a TiN coating is probably not a bad idea to try and stop Li interdiffusion. There is various literature which discusses it being an effective barrier to Li. Pyrolytic Boron Nitride is another good alternative. It also evaporates well from a k-cell at ~500C but eventually it will creep around the end of your crucible and attack heating filaments if you run it too long. PBN crucibles again. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 13 September 2019 16:55 To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi Folks, Has anybody allowed Lithium into an E-Beam evaporator, if so any tips? Thanks Rick Richard H. Morrison Principal Member of the Technical Staff Draper 555 Technology Square Cambridge, MA 02139-3573 Work 617-258-3420 Cell 508-930-3461 www.draper.com ________________________________ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. 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URL: From odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk Mon Sep 23 04:39:11 2019 From: odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk (Clark O.D.) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 08:39:11 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation In-Reply-To: <019d01d56f1f$3832a490$a897edb0$@columbia.edu> References: <5b1e2cfc797c4fa3933f82b5e89e723e@draper.com> <019d01d56f1f$3832a490$a897edb0$@columbia.edu> Message-ID: It also loves to intercalate with silicon. I wouldn't use it in any tool that was critical to another process either personally, the chamber I used to use was dedicated to Li related process. It is easy enough to wet clean from parts, although will make a basic solution with LiOH and some compensating acid was needed to sometimes prevent tarnishing. Never saw any issues with it vs vacuum systems and pumps. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Nava Ariel-Sternberg Sent: 19 September 2019 20:20 To: 'Gheorghe Iordache' ; 'Morrison, Richard H., Jr' ; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi all, I agree with Gheorghe. Lithium can contaminate your system and can also interfere with other processes if it's a multi-user evaporator. It reacts with water and with Nitrogen (that's why it's normally used in a glove box with Ar). Just be careful... Thanks, Nava Nava Ariel-Sternberg, Ph.D. Director of CNI Shared Labs CEPSR/MC 8903 530 west 120th st. NY NY 10027 Office: 212-8549927 Cell: 201-5627600 From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Gheorghe Iordache Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:31 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Dear Rick, This material deposition chart is a good source of information: https://www.lesker.com/newweb/deposition_materials/materialdepositionchart.cfm?pgid=0 Lithium may contaminate your vacuum system and special precautions shall be taken for exhaust and/or decontamination. It shall be avoided the contact with water or humid air as they react violently with Lithium dust (see for example page. 9-62 of Laser Program Annual Report, Volume 3, 1980 ! :)) Kind regards, ======================= Gheorghe IORDACHE, PhD Physics, MBA Director of the Nanofabrication Core Lab KAUST King Abdullah University of Science and Technology Al Khawarizmi Building 1 East, Level 3, Office 3415 Thuwal 23955-6900 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Office: +966 (0)12 8080447 Mobile: +966 (0)540381154 Email: gheorghe.iordache at kaust.edu.sa Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gheorghe-iordache-phd-physics-mba/ Follow the Core Labs: corelabs.kaust.edu.sa; https://twitter.com/kaust_corelabs; https://www.instagram.com/kaustcorelabs/; https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/12179999 Visit the Core Labs: https://corelabs.kaust.edu.sa/visitor-information ================ Please note that the weekend in Saudi Arabia is Friday and Saturday ======== What you do for yourself vanishes once you're gone. What you do for others stays for others as your legacy. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 17 September 2019 12:33 To: Clark O.D. >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Thanks Clark excellent information. Rick From: Clark O.D. [mailto:odc1n08 at soton.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:43 AM To: Morrison, Richard H., Jr >; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: RE: Lithium evaporation Can be done and evaporates fairly reliably. It takes very little power to melt. For us it helped to keep the walls of the crucible cold to stop it creeping up the sides and out onto the hearth. Can't remember what crucible we used but a TiN coating is probably not a bad idea to try and stop Li interdiffusion. There is various literature which discusses it being an effective barrier to Li. Pyrolytic Boron Nitride is another good alternative. It also evaporates well from a k-cell at ~500C but eventually it will creep around the end of your crucible and attack heating filaments if you run it too long. PBN crucibles again. From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu > On Behalf Of Morrison, Richard H., Jr Sent: 13 September 2019 16:55 To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Lithium evaporation Hi Folks, Has anybody allowed Lithium into an E-Beam evaporator, if so any tips? Thanks Rick Richard H. Morrison Principal Member of the Technical Staff Draper 555 Technology Square Cambridge, MA 02139-3573 Work 617-258-3420 Cell 508-930-3461 www.draper.com ________________________________ Notice: This email and any attachments may contain proprietary (Draper non-public) and/or export-controlled information of Draper. 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URL: From mhofheins at unm.edu Wed Sep 25 10:17:07 2019 From: mhofheins at unm.edu (Mark Hofheins) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:17:07 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Dektak 8 errors Message-ID: Hello All, We are having problems with our Dektak 8. When the stylist goes down and makes contact with the product, it does not make the small movement to go just past the starting point and begin it's scan. It is a bit rough starting the scan, and errors very quickly with the following error. Critical Error Timeout waiting for scam to retract from home next it gets another critical error that states, Data Acquisition Error Everything homes correctly. I have PM'd all lead screws, PM'd gantry's and cleaned the Teflon pads and slider block. Has anyone else experienced this problem/s? Mark Hofheins mhofheins at unm.edu Cell 505-710-3527 Office 505-272-7155 Micro Electronics Technician Manufacturing Engineering University of New Mexico MTTC 800 Bradbury S.E. 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My question to the group is what are you currently using for your particle counts? Does anyone use stationary particle counters and process the data to get an average over the whole cleanroom area? Thank you, -- Devin Fortier Systems/Infrastructure Specialist University of Alberta - nanoFAB W1-028A ECERF Building 9107 - 116 Street Edmonton, Alberta Canada T6G 2V4 www.nanofab.ualberta.ca Ph: 780-868-6480 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julia.aebersold at louisville.edu Wed Sep 25 15:11:50 2019 From: julia.aebersold at louisville.edu (Aebersold,Julia W.) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:11:50 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Dektak 8 errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We experience this when the scan time is too long and the stylist moves too slowly. Our PC also seems to flake our as the week goes as if it has a buffering issue. When we run into this we try the scan again or reboot our system. Cheers! Julia Aebersold, Ph.D. Manager, Micro/Nano Technology Center University of Louisville 2210 South Brook Street Shumaker Research Building, Room 233 Louisville, KY 40292 (502) 852-1572 http://louisville.edu/micronano/ ________________________________ From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu on behalf of Mark Hofheins Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:17 AM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Cc: Richard Marchant Subject: [labnetwork] Dektak 8 errors Hello All, We are having problems with our Dektak 8. When the stylist goes down and makes contact with the product, it does not make the small movement to go just past the starting point and begin it's scan. It is a bit rough starting the scan, and errors very quickly with the following error. Critical Error Timeout waiting for scam to retract from home next it gets another critical error that states, Data Acquisition Error Everything homes correctly. I have PM'd all lead screws, PM'd gantry's and cleaned the Teflon pads and slider block. Has anyone else experienced this problem/s? Mark Hofheins mhofheins at unm.edu Cell 505-710-3527 Office 505-272-7155 Micro Electronics Technician Manufacturing Engineering University of New Mexico MTTC 800 Bradbury S.E. Suit 169 Albuquerque, New Mexico 87106-4346 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spaolini at cns.fas.harvard.edu Thu Sep 26 12:26:22 2019 From: spaolini at cns.fas.harvard.edu (Paolini, Steven) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:26:22 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Stationary Particle Counters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Devin, I would suggest getting a baseline of your entire fab by a company that specializes in this. Once a year, we have our fab re-certified and as they perform this, they examine the entire HEPA coverage with a sonic detector that will show leaks, and problem areas. This company hires a HEPA installation/service person to follow them around to fix problems as they are identified. After you have this baseline map, I would also recommend a permanent particle counter in the middle of all the chase areas if your clean room is a sidewinder, or in the floor if it?s a ballroom style raised floor. This will provide real time averaging and will provide feedback if you wish to have a closed loop system that communicate to the HEPA fan VFD, This type of arrangement will be capable of slowing down your air changes/Hr. during periods of inactivity. This is a tremendous energy conservation measure as well as having the ability to speed up the HEPA air during higher particulate generation times. I realize the large expense of doing this but if you want to get serious about maintaining a truly clean room without just dumping money on other measures, it?s a good way to go. I am curious to hear what other fabbers use as a method. Best of luck, Equipment Dood Steve Paolini Principal Equipment Engineer Harvard University Center for Nanoscale Systems 11 Oxford St. Cambridge, MA 02138 617- 496- 9816 spaolini at cns.fas.harvard.edu www.cns.fas.harvard.edu From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Devin Fortier Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:49 AM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Stationary Particle Counters Dear Colleagues, We are looking to improve the way we do particle counts in our cleanroom and are looking at installing multiple stationary particle counters as a solution. We would also want these devices to tie in with our building monitoring system that uses BACnet. We currently have a portable particle counter that is moved to various set locations and left to take its measurements. This is being done by a staff member and the whole procedure takes up almost half a day of one person's time per week. Aside from taking so much time, the counter is cumbersome and gets in the way of our users in the lab. My question to the group is what are you currently using for your particle counts? Does anyone use stationary particle counters and process the data to get an average over the whole cleanroom area? Thank you, -- Devin Fortier Systems/Infrastructure Specialist University of Alberta - nanoFAB W1-028A ECERF Building 9107 - 116 Street Edmonton, Alberta Canada T6G 2V4 www.nanofab.ualberta.ca Ph: 780-868-6480 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Daniel.Pulver at ll.mit.edu Thu Sep 26 13:18:00 2019 From: Daniel.Pulver at ll.mit.edu (Pulver, Daniel - 0835 - MITLL) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:18:00 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Stationary Particle Counters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Devin, I manage a large ISO-4 (class 10) laboratory where we prototype integrated circuits of commercial scale complexity. We do monthly particle counts with a $2500 hand held meter (Fluke?). Most of our particle feedback comes from measuring wafer surfaces (e.g. surfscan or like laser scattering surface particle counters) While we do have the benefit of ISO-4 design, our facility is 25 years old and to my knowledge we haven?t had an airborne particulate failure during that period while the HVAC systems are running normally. We have facilities surveillance for HVAC component status and occasionally sample HEPA filters for particle leaks and pressure drop. We do a lot of surface particle measuring and defect metrology down to ~0.1um. We don?t find environmental particles in any significant quantity. Essentially all of our surface particles result from process and process maintenance ? even after 3 years of improvements from defect reduction on routine foundry work where we regularly achieve high visual defect screening yield at ~1/3 micron process node. I advocate you have an understanding of process-induced particles impact on your lab?s work in good balance with your interest in investing in additional airborne counting. Dan From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Devin Fortier Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:49 AM To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu Subject: [labnetwork] Stationary Particle Counters Dear Colleagues, We are looking to improve the way we do particle counts in our cleanroom and are looking at installing multiple stationary particle counters as a solution. We would also want these devices to tie in with our building monitoring system that uses BACnet. We currently have a portable particle counter that is moved to various set locations and left to take its measurements. This is being done by a staff member and the whole procedure takes up almost half a day of one person's time per week. Aside from taking so much time, the counter is cumbersome and gets in the way of our users in the lab. My question to the group is what are you currently using for your particle counts? Does anyone use stationary particle counters and process the data to get an average over the whole cleanroom area? Thank you, -- Devin Fortier Systems/Infrastructure Specialist University of Alberta - nanoFAB W1-028A ECERF Building 9107 - 116 Street Edmonton, Alberta Canada T6G 2V4 www.nanofab.ualberta.ca Ph: 780-868-6480 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5537 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mbegliarbekov at gc.cuny.edu Fri Sep 27 15:34:14 2019 From: mbegliarbekov at gc.cuny.edu (Begliarbekov, Milan) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:34:14 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Question about the legality of caps Message-ID: Dear All, At CUNY some of our administration is questioning the legality of capping user fees. After pointing out that this is a ubiquitous practice for all nanofabs, the administration informed us of the following NIH guideline, in particular this paragraph: g. Can fee schedules cap the amount charged to a user in a particular time period? Generally, no. Fee schedules that cap charges at a certain dollar amount per month if more than a certain number of hours or units are used are not consistent with applicable cost principles unless the institution or some other non-Federal funding supports the difference between the allocable cost and the amount charged to a heavy user. If appropriate for a particular facility, it may be possible to create fee schedules that have different charges depending on timing and level of usage as long as the charges are determined and consistently applied in accord with applicable Federal cost principles. In principle none of our users are NIH funded, but I'm wondering if you ever heard of such a guideline, and if so, how does it impact your operations. Thank you as always, Milan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nclay at upenn.edu Sat Sep 28 00:25:05 2019 From: nclay at upenn.edu (Noah Clay) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 00:25:05 -0400 Subject: [labnetwork] Question about the legality of caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Milan, Federal Circular A-21, I believe, is the de facto document for such matters. Visit this link and search for ?Applicable Credits?, pages 12-13, sections 5a and 5b https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/circulars/A21/a21_2004.pdf My takeaway is that caps (?discounts, rebates, allowances?) are allowable. The NIH guideline snippet in your original email points to handling cap abuse (?a heavy user?) and may apply more specifically to an NIH core. As written, it requires definition of a cap abuse threshold and an internal recharge mechanism. I like the intent/spirit of this. Lastly, as far as I know, all federal funding granted to an educational institution must be charged uniformly. So, an NIH grant can?t be charged differently than an NSF grant. Good luck, Noah Clay University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2019, at 15:34, Begliarbekov, Milan wrote: > > Dear All, > > At CUNY some of our administration is questioning the legality of capping user fees. After pointing out that this is a ubiquitous practice for all nanofabs, the administration informed us of the following NIH guideline, in particular this paragraph: > > g. Can fee schedules cap the amount charged to a user in a particular time period? > > Generally, no. Fee schedules that cap charges at a certain dollar amount per month if more than a certain number of hours or units are used are not consistent with applicable cost principles unless the institution or some other non-Federal funding supports the difference between the allocable cost and the amount charged to a heavy user. If appropriate for a particular facility, it may be possible to create fee schedules that have different charges depending on timing and level of usage as long as the charges are determined and consistently applied in accord with applicable Federal cost principles. > > > In principle none of our users are NIH funded, but I?m wondering if you ever heard of such a guideline, and if so, how does it impact your operations. > > Thank you as always, > > Milan > > > _______________________________________________ > labnetwork mailing list > labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu > https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iharvey at princeton.edu Sun Sep 29 17:26:45 2019 From: iharvey at princeton.edu (Ian Harvey) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 21:26:45 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Fwd: Question about the legality of caps References: Message-ID: Hi Milan, To piggyback on Noah?s note, the other key term is ?subsidy?. The point of all the legal maneuvering is to keep the federal government research grants from subsidizing others? research activities. From the A-21 circular: "Each institution's F&A cost rate process must be appropriately designed to ensure that Federal sponsors do not in any way subsidize the F&A costs of other sponsors, specifically activities sponsored by industry and foreign governments." **However, it is perfectly ok for federal research grants to be subsidized by the institution.** In other words, if you set your rates (including ubiquitous caps) in such a way that it is clear the deficit between lab expenses and revenue is covered by the institutional subsidies, then you are good with the Feds even while you get deeper under scrutiny from the accountants within your own institution who wonder why it is so expensive to operate such facilities. yes, good luck, ?Ian Harvey Princeton University Begin forwarded message: From: Noah Clay > Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Question about the legality of caps Date: September 28, 2019 12:25:05 AM EDT To: "Begliarbekov, Milan" > Cc: "labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu" >, "Alu, Andrea" > Hi Milan, Federal Circular A-21, I believe, is the de facto document for such matters. Visit this link and search for ?Applicable Credits?, pages 12-13, sections 5a and 5b https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/circulars/A21/a21_2004.pdf My takeaway is that caps (?discounts, rebates, allowances?) are allowable. The NIH guideline snippet in your original email points to handling cap abuse (?a heavy user?) and may apply more specifically to an NIH core. As written, it requires definition of a cap abuse threshold and an internal recharge mechanism. I like the intent/spirit of this. Lastly, as far as I know, all federal funding granted to an educational institution must be charged uniformly. So, an NIH grant can?t be charged differently than an NSF grant. Good luck, Noah Clay University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2019, at 15:34, Begliarbekov, Milan > wrote: Dear All, At CUNY some of our administration is questioning the legality of capping user fees. After pointing out that this is a ubiquitous practice for all nanofabs, the administration informed us of the following NIH guideline, in particular this paragraph: g. Can fee schedules cap the amount charged to a user in a particular time period? Generally, no. Fee schedules that cap charges at a certain dollar amount per month if more than a certain number of hours or units are used are not consistent with applicable cost principles unless the institution or some other non-Federal funding supports the difference between the allocable cost and the amount charged to a heavy user. If appropriate for a particular facility, it may be possible to create fee schedules that have different charges depending on timing and level of usage as long as the charges are determined and consistently applied in accord with applicable Federal cost principles. In principle none of our users are NIH funded, but I?m wondering if you ever heard of such a guideline, and if so, how does it impact your operations. Thank you as always, Milan _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tobi at stanford.edu Mon Sep 30 12:58:43 2019 From: tobi at stanford.edu (Tobi Beetz) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:58:43 +0000 Subject: [labnetwork] Fwd: Question about the legality of caps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Milan ? I actually want to echo what you heard from your administration. A few years back when the uniform guidance replaced the OMB circulars, I went to a conference for University Administrators and asked about the cap. The general agreement was that the cap is not OK. At that time I also saw caps as an issue in our center and we had already started the process to get rid of caps (lower rates and now we are also providing a discount for off-peak usage). It seems to me that our community is pretty unique in providing capped fees. There are lots of other ways to provide discounts for heavy usage. For example, a reduced rate after certain volume is something that could come close to a cap for a PI. In the example mentioned below, you would need the institutional subsidy to pay directly for the overage fees incurred (charge user account up to cap and charge subsidy account beyond cap). I do not think that it is ok to simply say that there is a subsidy and it makes up for the cap. Also be aware how you apply an institutional subsidy. We get an institutional subsidy of ~10% for our operations. However, we do not apply that subsidy to our service center but instead move some costs (mainly 5-10% of each staff member) off from the service center and charge our operating budget directly. This would not immediately be a recognized as a subsidy when you are submitting your rate package for approval. Cheers, Tobi Tobi Beetz, Ph.D., Associate Director, Stanford Nano Shared Facilities, Stanford University 348 Via Pueblo, Spilker Building, Room 105, Stanford, CA 94305-4088, 650-644-9541, http://snsf.stanford.edu From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu On Behalf Of Ian Harvey Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:27 PM To: Begliarbekov, Milan Cc: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu; Alu, Andrea Subject: [labnetwork] Fwd: Question about the legality of caps Hi Milan, To piggyback on Noah?s note, the other key term is ?subsidy?. The point of all the legal maneuvering is to keep the federal government research grants from subsidizing others? research activities. From the A-21 circular: "Each institution's F&A cost rate process must be appropriately designed to ensure that Federal sponsors do not in any way subsidize the F&A costs of other sponsors, specifically activities sponsored by industry and foreign governments." **However, it is perfectly ok for federal research grants to be subsidized by the institution.** In other words, if you set your rates (including ubiquitous caps) in such a way that it is clear the deficit between lab expenses and revenue is covered by the institutional subsidies, then you are good with the Feds even while you get deeper under scrutiny from the accountants within your own institution who wonder why it is so expensive to operate such facilities. yes, good luck, ?Ian Harvey Princeton University Begin forwarded message: From: Noah Clay > Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Question about the legality of caps Date: September 28, 2019 12:25:05 AM EDT To: "Begliarbekov, Milan" > Cc: "labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu" >, "Alu, Andrea" > Hi Milan, Federal Circular A-21, I believe, is the de facto document for such matters. Visit this link and search for ?Applicable Credits?, pages 12-13, sections 5a and 5b https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/circulars/A21/a21_2004.pdf My takeaway is that caps (?discounts, rebates, allowances?) are allowable. The NIH guideline snippet in your original email points to handling cap abuse (?a heavy user?) and may apply more specifically to an NIH core. As written, it requires definition of a cap abuse threshold and an internal recharge mechanism. I like the intent/spirit of this. Lastly, as far as I know, all federal funding granted to an educational institution must be charged uniformly. So, an NIH grant can?t be charged differently than an NSF grant. Good luck, Noah Clay University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2019, at 15:34, Begliarbekov, Milan > wrote: Dear All, At CUNY some of our administration is questioning the legality of capping user fees. After pointing out that this is a ubiquitous practice for all nanofabs, the administration informed us of the following NIH guideline, in particular this paragraph: g. Can fee schedules cap the amount charged to a user in a particular time period? Generally, no. Fee schedules that cap charges at a certain dollar amount per month if more than a certain number of hours or units are used are not consistent with applicable cost principles unless the institution or some other non-Federal funding supports the difference between the allocable cost and the amount charged to a heavy user. If appropriate for a particular facility, it may be possible to create fee schedules that have different charges depending on timing and level of usage as long as the charges are determined and consistently applied in accord with applicable Federal cost principles. In principle none of our users are NIH funded, but I?m wondering if you ever heard of such a guideline, and if so, how does it impact your operations. Thank you as always, Milan _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork _______________________________________________ labnetwork mailing list labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu https://mtl.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/labnetwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: