[labnetwork] Cleanroom training policies + COVID guidelines

[Robert Vandusen]

Thanks to everyone who has been able to provide feedback on this topic.  It has been very useful.
Here at Carleton University in Ottawa we have been able to limit to only a handful of previously trained users.  Whenever possible the lab staff have been running processes for users.
No new user training has been done since March, but we have been starting to get more requests though.  I also like the idea of the face shields for close work.

Thanks
Rob
   Robert Vandusen
   Microfabrication Cleanlab Facility Manager
   Electronics Department
   Carleton University
   room: 4184 Mackenzie Building
   613-520-2600 ext 5761
   Robert_vandusen at cunet.carleton.ca<mailto:Robert_vandusen at cunet.carleton.ca>




From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> On Behalf Of Vlahakis, James
Sent: December 16, 2020 2:10 PM
To: Iulian Codreanu <codreanu at udel.edu>; labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Cleanroom training policies + COVID guidelines

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This conversation has been very helpful, thank you to those who have posted their thoughts/experiences.

Iulian's comment was particularly interesting -
During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).

Here at Tufts we are unable to train new users - adhering to our COVID guidelines while training users is not possible. It would be useful to understand what others are doing so a few questions for the group - Are you providing in-lab training? If so, what accommodations are in place? Do you have defined metrics for tightening or loosening restrictions?

If I can present plan(s) that other universities have successfully employed perhaps I can convince our OVPR to permit certain training functions

jim

From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>> On Behalf Of Iulian Codreanu
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:26 AM
To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies

Hi Robert,

At Delaware we ask the users to bring their personal face mask (they have to wear it to enter the building anyway) to the gowning room and cover it with a beard cover. This has worked well since we re-opened in the middle of June; the face mask is meant to help with the virus and the beard cover with the lab cleanliness. During training both the trainer and the trainee also wear face shields (the type we use for acid work at the fume hoods).

Happy Holidays to Everyone!

Iulian

iulian Codreanu, Ph.D.

Director, Nanofabrication Facility

University of Delaware

Harker ISE Lab, Room 163

221 Academy Street

Newark, DE 19716

302-831-2784

http://udnf.udel.edu
On 12/16/2020 3:07 AM, Shimon Eliav wrote:
Hi Robert,

When we returned to work after the first lock-down, we asked ourselves what to do regarding masks/face covers.
Then I did a very simple experiment to check by myself how effective is a face-cover to contain the particles we generate during normal respiration or talking. See attached summary.

Today our policy is: every user comes with his/her own mask and must put the face cover over it. This "two layers" solution is more than enough inside the clean room (plus as much distancing is possible).

Regards,

Shimon
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
The Unit for Nano Fabrication
Jerusalem - Israel

From: labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu> [mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Vandusen
Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:29
To: labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>
Subject: [labnetwork] Question about cleanroom mask policies

Hi all.
Hope this finds everyone safe.
Now that N95s are starting to become a bit more accessible, there has been some recent discussion within our labs about whether to adopt an N95 mask policy for new users and when distancing is a challenge.
So far we have just been wearing the standard cleanroom style masks.
Just wondering what other labs have been using.

Thanks
Robert Vandusen
Technical Officer, Microfabrication Lab
Electronics Department
Carleton University
room: 4184 Mackenzie Building
613-520-2600<tel:613-520-2600> ext 5761
Robert_vandusen at cunet.carleton.ca<mailto:Robert_vandusen at cunet.carleton.ca>



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